Air show organizers, county tussle over beer sales, buses
by Katy Ruth Camp
krcamp@mdjonline.com
August 31, 2010 12:00 AM | 2637 views | 13 13 comments | 6 6 recommendations | email to a friend | print
A group of F-16 Thunderbirds line the tarmac at Dobbins ARB while waiting their turn to run demo flights during the 2008 Wings Over Marietta Air Show.
A group of F-16 Thunderbirds line the tarmac at Dobbins ARB while waiting their turn to run demo flights during the 2008 Wings Over Marietta Air Show.
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DOBBINS - Organizers hope to sell beer at the family friendly Wings Over Atlanta air show at Dobbins Air Reserve Base on Oct. 16. But county officials say offering attendees alcohol as they try to fight the anticipated crowd of 100,000 will create a volatile cocktail. Cobb Chairman Tim Lee and County Manager David Hankerson and have threatened to disallow Cobb Community Transit buses to be used in shuttling patrons if ale is allowed.

Lt. Col. Steve Drosos, director of the air show, said Monday he and other show organizers would like to sell beer to patrons, "as most air shows do," but that final approval will come from Col. Timothy Tarchick at Dobbins "sometime soon."

Because the base does not have enough parking for everyone expected to attend, Hankerson said organizers have asked the county to provide CCT buses to take spectators from Dobbins to their vehicles, as it did during the 2008 show.

At the 2008 Wings Over Atlanta, slow security checkpoints at Dobbins led to a transportation nightmare, causing many spectators to wait more than two hours for a shuttle bus to transport them to and from the show.

And while organizers are hoping to improve the situation this year, Lee said, "Even with the best of systems available, there will be traffic jams, congestions and lots of people, and many residents will have to come through our system anyway. When you get a large crowd in hot weather and add alcohol, that creates a lot of unknown factors and volatile risks that we can't control."

Hankerson said he would recommend to the Board of Commissioners that the county not allow CCT buses to be used for the event if beer is served, citing "security, safety and crowd issues."

"This is typically a family event, and if there's a mass exodus at the end with 100,000 people crowding onto the buses, and some of them have been drinking heavily, I see a problem with that," Hankerson said.

Hankerson acknowledged that the use of the buses "worked out well for us and we made a profit."

"People had to pay to ride, and the fee covered the overtime pay we had to give the drivers," he said. "But when you get alcohol involved, it's a different story."

Hankerson said Dobbins does not need a permit to sell alcohol as it is under federal - not local - jurisdiction.

Most of the revenue from beer sales would go to Dobbins, Drosos said.

Hankerson and Drosos said county and air show officials will meet this week to discuss the matter. Drosos was not sure if Dobbins would hire its own shuttle service for the day if the county does not provide service, as the event is "still in the planning stage."
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truth hurts
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September 01, 2010
Beer! I'm there. No beer,glad I'm not there!
fallguyx
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September 01, 2010
The Base Exchange on Base sells Wine Beer and Hard Spirits 7 days a week every week unless they are closed for a Holiday. Never has been a problem. In the past the base has sold Beer during the Air Shows and they have a great force in place to keep any that seem to be getting drunk under control. The S.Police know thier job and will handle it with all of the professionalism as any law enforcement would. I myself do not drink but think Cobb County is way off the mark on this one.
Military Hipocrisy!
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August 31, 2010
I've been a member of the military for quite a few years and it baffles me to no end why we preach to our servicemen and women that they should act responsibly and not drink and drive. Well, I've attended countless command briefings where the brass pushes the message of don't drink and drive and then turns right around and holds a unit or even base picnic with alcohol available/served. How does that old adage go, "Do as I say, not as I do." Great leadership! I guess we'll see what kind of Colonel and leader this Timonthy Tarchick is when the decision is announced. Oh, they always caveat that you'll be held accountable if you're caught....not good enough hipocrates.
SHAZAMM!
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August 31, 2010
I can imagine drunk angry folks waiting to get on a limited number of buses. Someone gets mad, tempers flare and then you have fights breaking out. A little beer goes along way! Too bad everyone wants to leave the air show at once. Maybe the base can find a way to stagger departures by offering some other entertainment.
Ah, the nanny state
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August 31, 2010
I love how these commenter's think they know what's best for everyone, and they've decided that beer is a no-no. More power to the nanny state! Never mind that they serve beer at Braves games... because we all know that baseball isn't a family friendly activity.
Empty
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August 31, 2010
Tim Lee and David Hankerson are political hacks. As long as they get theirs do you think they give a hoot about yours? One should never have been elected and the other needs to find another door to hang his hat. Leave the tax payer's alone. They have minds too ass hats!
Give me a break
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August 31, 2010
Thank you Mr. Wizard for the beer vs. whiskey ratio.
Level Headed
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August 31, 2010
Almost anyone can do a better job than CCT so private venue transportaion would be a GRAND IDEA. Get rid of the politics and let someone else make the money. Hit Cobb County in the pocketbook where it counts.

Other than a revenue producing feature, I do not see any benefit at all to beer sales at the event. I was there last time and it was AWESOME.

I am counting down to this time.
An American
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August 31, 2010
As baseball , football and hockey events are all famiiy orientated events, so to that end is the AirShow, when the Georgia Dome and Philips Arena have dueling events, their can be over 150 thousand spectators involved, both facilities run responsible venues. I am sure that the base operatiosn will too run a responsible and exciting show for the greater Atlanta community to enjoy as they have in years past. Here's a solution, one drink maximun in a designated area. Hands are stanped with no re-entry.
What the!?
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August 31, 2010
Transportation 2 years ago was a fiasco. Patience wore thin and tempers flared. I can easily see a half-sodden idiot all pumped up with alcohol and patriotic pride losing it.

Let's say a lowball estimate of just 1 percent of attendees have a bit too much and have no patience.

That's 1000 alcohol-empowered-just-saw-an-airshow- idiots to deal with. Let's say those 1000 fine examples of humanity negatively influence just 10 other attendees apiece.

Now you have 10,000 people/children whose day and positive experience has been shot to hell.

Now run over the foot of any of those 10,000 with your stroller.

Think I'll attend the Buddy Walk on the Square instead.

Watcher..
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August 31, 2010
The world does NOT revolve around CCT! Let a private Contractor provide transportation services. I'll bet that they will do it cheaper and more efficiently than CCT.

On the alcohol issue, NO WAY!
Hate Cobb Politics
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August 31, 2010
Look at this...local government blackmail! Don't serve alcohol or you can not use our buses. I did not say that and my county rep sure did not ask me this. We are talking about beer folks...get off your religious high horse....take a look around CTT on South Loop or Powder Springs or Franklin....we do have alcohol here! Gosh I hate this place.
Waldo 313
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August 31, 2010
I find it irresponsible for base officials to sanction beer consumption. One can of beer is equal in alcohol to one shot of whiskey.
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