Pastor: Church wins battle, loses war
by Katy Ruth Camp
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Shiloh United Methodist Church Pastor Bill Floyd stands in front of the church. Left with no practical access point, the church won’t be able to sell the property for a good price, Floyd says.
Shiloh United Methodist Church Pastor Bill Floyd stands in front of the church. Left with no practical access point, the church won’t be able to sell the property for a good price, Floyd says.
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KENNESAW - Shiloh United Methodist Church may have won its court battle with the Cobb County government on paper, but Pastor Bill Floyd said his church is really on the losing end.

"The county has taken our land, our property value and has broken our spirits," Floyd said. "The only good thing that came out of the lawsuit is that we forced them to admit that they told us we could keep our traffic light as long as we remained a church. This has been an exhaustive, miserable, 2-year battle, and we may have won the settlement, but we're really left with nothing."

The simple, white church building, built in 1932, is situated at the intersection of Cherokee Street and Jiles Road, though the church's history dates back 178 years in Kennesaw. Last fall, the county paid the church $295,740 through Declaration of Taking for the 0.3 acre of land in front of the church, which the county needed for the Jiles Road widening project. The project gives motorists three lanes of traffic to turn onto Cherokee Street, directly in front of the church.

Because of the purchase, the church, made up mainly of elderly residents, sits 60 feet from the edge of the road, Floyd said. He said the church was looking to sell the land to a commercial developer, as the widening had made the location unpractical for the church and unsafe for its members.

In 2008, the city of Kennesaw granted the property commercial zoning, and the church signed a sales contract with developer Brandon Ashkouti for $3.3 million. But church members said the county then told them the traffic light easement would be removed if the church sold to a commercial developer.

Without the traffic light, Ashkouti had no choice but to pull out of the contract, said the church's broker, Ross Westbrook. That left the church with a property that has no practical access point and therefore cannot be sold as a commercial property at a reasonable price.

In the lawsuit, filed in the Cobb County Superior Court, the church was seeking either for the traffic light and driveway to remain for any future commercial use or for $2 million to cover some of the value the property would lose through not being able to sell to a commercial developer without the traffic light.

Floyd said he wasn't really hoping for the $2 million, but rather to keep the light for future commercial use, or $600,000 to $700,000 to pay for attorneys fees, appraisals and expert witnesses, and to be able to have some left over to keep the church's costly bi-weekly food pantry going.

The church was granted $434,450 from the jury on June 26 after the six-day trial, $295,740 of which the county already owed for its purchase of the 0.3 acre in front of the church. Floyd said the church owed $293,000 in attorney fees, but its attorney, Scott Jacobson, of Holt Ney Zatcoff & Wasserman, LLP in Marietta, cut it back to $101,000 so the church could afford to pay him. The county agreed to allow the church to keep the traffic light, as long as the property continued to be used by the church; otherwise, the traffic light and driveway would be removed.

Floyd said the church's building was moved back about a half acre in the 1960s so the county could build the Jiles Road intersection.

County officials would not comment because the church filed a motion on July 20 for a new trial in Cobb Superior Court.

In the motion for a new trial, Jacobson stated 15 reasons for the request, citing prejudice by "improper comments by the Court during trial respecting Cobb County's financial condition." Jacobson states that was in addition to other "errors" he perceived throughout the trial conducted in front of Cobb County Superior Court Judge Jim Bodiford.

Floyd said Bodiford continuously "led the jury, telling them over and over how broke the county was and reminding them by telling them each day that they could have a sandwich, but that they would have to get their own water because the county couldn't afford to buy it. And that witnesses on the stand would have to give paper and pens back to the county because the county is in a budget crunch. So it didn't take the jury five minutes to make a decision."

Floyd said the motion for a new trial has not been granted or denied, and that neither the church nor its property is for sale, as "no one will pay us what we would need to move." Floyd said the church would remain on the property, though its membership has dropped from 104 members when the Journal first covered the lawsuit last November to 55 members. Floyd said the uncertainty of the church's future drove some members away, and the pending lawsuit kept others from joining. Floyd said the food pantry's future is also uncertain if the church has to cover all of the costs, though, luckily, several Kennesaw churches, organizations and an anonymous donor have pitched in to keep the popular community service afloat. Floyd said the pantry feeds about local 300 families a month.

"We do it twice a week, and each time, it takes about $2,500. Our offering plate last Sunday had $700 in it. So we can barely survive as a church on our offering. But Kennesaw Methodist Church and New Beginnings Methodist Church have helped us out tremendously. The Kennesaw Business Association has taken up food for us four times a year, which has been wonderful, and an anonymous lady from Kennesaw Methodist donated $25,000, which was so wonderful. But we're struggling. It's a struggle," Floyd said.

Jacobson said the county's payment has been paid into the court system, but the church has not yet received it.

Floyd said, "We're here for now, but it's taken a lot out of us. I'm not sure where we'll go from here. We're hoping for the best, and some of the members have been here for generations, many in their 70s and 80s, and we all want to keep the church going, but I just don't know what's going to happen. I just don't know."
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September 02, 2010
I heard Judge Bodiford has opposition this November. Opportunity knocks. If I were the pastor, I would file a complaint against him with the Judicial Qualifications Council for influencing the jury.
Steel Magnolia
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August 30, 2010
For all that have never had their property taken by eminent domain, it'll be interesting to know how you react when it happens to YOU. To the attorneys that represented Cobb County in this law suit, a quote from Sir Walter Scott, "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive."

This church has rendered unto Caesar what is his, and then some, as Cobb County continues to take their property over and over again. Yet, they keep the faith and serve the needy in the community.
anonymous
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August 28, 2010
This lawsuit was not about greed, it was about trying to do what we were called to do, serve the community. The food pantry has helped many families in the area in their time of need. What was not mentioned was land was taken a few years ago for the new fire station and now another .3 acre was taken for the new road project. The new road project leads everyone to believe it will improve conditions during rush hour. What they didn't tell you was it will go back to two lanes in front of the fire station and no plans are in the motion for the extra lane to be extended to the interstate.
Acworth Dude
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August 27, 2010
If I were a personal injury lawyer, I would join that church, gonna be a whole lot of rear end car wrecks in the near future right there.
Wascally Wabbit
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August 27, 2010
Darth Bunny has indeed captured the essential point of this situation with intuitive perception.

And why not just lease the property to the business that wants to buy it and move the church to another location? Or meet in a members house??
Enough Already
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August 27, 2010
Well, I got three things out of this article. Maybe I am missing something.

1. Why doesn’t the developer, Brandon Ashkouti, apply for his on traffic light easement? (The church has always known this would be an issue on any sale.)

2. The pastor, Bill Floyd, just wanted 600,00 dollars for being inconvenienced. What a sweet deal just for giving up a few feet of property for a road.

3. Judge Jim Bodiford is worried about not being able to pay for a bottle of water, lunch, pen,and paper, all needed for properly conducting court business. But will he be so worried when he gets to move into the new, and unnecessary, courthouse that tax payers are funding? That is beyond acceptable hypocrisy and he should be removed from the bench.

Oh, one other thing I have from this article…the comment by Tim Smith regarding how long is takes to post comments…Get over yourself. Do you have any idea how many fantastic comments never make it? What makes your interests so special. And thanks for such an insightful observation about the article and the issue.

anonymous
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August 27, 2010
Yes djw1265 I see the big picture - the church was paid fair market value for the piece of property. That did not lower the value of the property left. What is lowering the property value per the church members is the removal of the light.

The site does not deserve its own light - it is only there because it is grandfathered in. It costs the taxpayers $$ to maintain and time that light.

All this church is doing is using up our tax dollars because they don't like the decision.

Take the light down now!

djw1265
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August 26, 2010
Is it all about what is convenient for the commuters? Can anyone here see the big picture? The government taking property for their use, saying it is for the community. Offering a price for the partial land that when subdivided lowers the value to almost nothing and then taking away traffic signals to where the land cannot be sold. Once again, can anyone see the big picture?
Don't Understand
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August 26, 2010
Why can't the county just grant the light and let the church move on? It sounds like government bullying a church that helps the community. Shame on the Cobb County government. Tim Lee and commissioners?
Darth Bunny
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August 26, 2010
If God wanted a stop light to stay there the Goldsteins would have owned the property and nothing would ever have been done.

As for your comments about tasty rabbits, how would you like to go through life without a single flower ever growing in your garden again.
fallguyx
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August 26, 2010
Even the old small church is greedy. Render onto Caesar what is Caesar's.
Native Cobb Resident
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August 26, 2010
So the church wants to keep a red light to get out of their property so they can sell the land? What's the problem, Cobb County? You've already made the church's property worthless by taking their land at a reduced rate. This isn't about public safety or roads--this is harassment. The county must have their eye on that property for their own use. Just watch. In a couple of years, once the church is left with nothing, the county will step in and buy that property for next to nothing, just like they've done a hundred times before.

SHAME on you, COBB COUNTY!
God's People
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August 26, 2010
From reading these comments, it looks like these commentors ALL ARE NON-BELIEVERS! That does not surprise me. People are needing God less and trusting the devil more. See what a God-less life will bring you folks........in the future.
Just Sayin'
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August 26, 2010
I cannot believe the general apathy that some of you have towards the people of Shiloh United Methodist Church. I can promise you that if this were happening in front of Roswell Street Baptist or First Presbyterian or North Metro, the public officials would be handling this in a much different fashion. For that matter, when some of you who live alongside once tranquil country roads, like Kennesaw Due West or Dallas Highway, see your front yards taken by road projects, you may have a change of heart.

Greed is so not an issue here. They own a piece of property that has been rendered useless by the use of eminent domain. They should be compensated. And, for what it is worth, I know no one at this church or anyone having anything to do with the situation. In this case it just seems like the people involved who should be serving the public interest have decided to play hard ball with a group of elderly church people. Shame on you!
Watcher...
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August 26, 2010
I don't want to hear Judge Bodiford poor mouthing for Cobb County at a time when the Judges are about to move into a new $ 60 million Courthouse.
*&^234
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August 26, 2010
Could their food pantry use some tasty rabbits?
Empty
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August 26, 2010
Are you kidding me? This pastor and his entire misguided flock need to simply fold their tent and move. Instead, they've been disassembled in the Cobb County Courts by a jury that listened to all the evidence. Then they came back with a decision that wasn't much different from what they were offered to begin with with. Now they cry about attorney's fees, professional witness fees etc.. Are you kidding me? Do the right thing before you make another misguided decision all because your pride is hurt...
turbo44
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August 26, 2010
This is just another example of government bullying. The use of imminent domain to seize the land, threatening to revoke the traffic light easement (making the property unusable), and "poor-mouthing" by the county court judge to influence the jury are apparently acceptable behaviors in this case. There would be a public outcry if this were a mosque, but since it's an old church full of Protestants what do you hear?...crickets chirping...
Mike Everhart
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August 26, 2010
The Kennesaw Business Association is honored to help. We will be collecting food for their food pantry at Taste of Kennesaw, Saturday Sept. 11th. Please bring something for them - it is, sadly, a needed service in our community.
Tim smith
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August 26, 2010
how long does it take MDJ to review comments? Several more should have posted by NOW!
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