The Tea Party
August 20, 2010 12:00 AM | 830 views | 7 7 comments | 6 6 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Former Bush White House political advisor Karl Rove is someone many either love or hate, but regardless of one's feelings about him, he was on the money in his remarks in Savannah on Monday about the influence of the Tea Party movement on the coming off-year elections.

That movement has done a good job of tapping into widespread anger at President Barack Obama's leftist policies, he said, and at a Democratic Congress that has spent wildly on ineffective economic "stimulus" programs and approved Obama's radical makeover of health care.

That anger will translate into additional millions of people going to the polls this fall compared to the off-year elections of November 2006, when 82 million people voted, he predicted.

"I would not be surprised to see turnout over 90 million in this election," Rove said in Savannah, where he addressed a fundraiser for the National Republican Congressional Committee. "And the difference ... is going to be largely the people who have been motivated by the tea party."

He conceded that a scattering of tea partiers are wing-nut types.

"There are a couple of small groups of cranks and nuts inside this group. Any new political movement draws people like that," Rove said. "It's a little raw and unsophisticated because virtually all of these people have never done politics before."

But you can find such types all across the political spectrum, and their presence does not usually tar the goals of the larger groups with whom they associate.

Moreover, it would be a mistake to assume they are the driving force behind the Republican Party these days, or vice versa, as U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) reminded during an editorial board meeting at the Marietta Daily Journal this week.

"They don't want to be told what to do by the GOP, and I would say the GOP doesn't want to be told what to do by them," he said.

Are the tea partiers here to stay? It's too early to say, obviously. Their main foils at the moment, Obama and the Democratic Congress, will someday be gone from the scene - and hopefully soon. The onus will then be on Republicans to be true to their conservative roots and work to curb spending and government regulation - goals they do a good job of talking about, but did a lousy job of fulfilling the last time they were at the levers of power in Washington.
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Sad business guy
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August 25, 2010
So, as I am not loyal to any political party, or movement, I know this....As a business owner, it is my responsibility to my employees, and their families, to make good decisions about my businesses that will have a very real impact on their daily lives. They in fact depend on me for that, regardless of my political point of view.

When I cannot hire another $50,000 employee because with taxes and healthcare costs, it actually costs me $74,500 to employ them, it affects them. When I decide to close a business (from which I take no salary) because the health care requirements enacted by our government mean the difference between viability or loss, it affects them. When my taxes rise beyond the level of being able to plow money back into those businesses for raises, vacations, insurance, technology, or more employees, it affects them. When the prospect of growing a company to a great level, knowing I will not reap the rewards of our collective efforts because any capital gains will be taken by the government, causes me to keep it and their hopes at a diminished level, it affects them.

Knowing that I can keep what I have earned, figure out how to not lose it to the government, and not risk anymore of it in fear that all rewards will be redistributed to those without any skin in the game, and close the busineses, it affects them.

That's not tea party, republican, or democratic platform speak, that's real, it's here, it's now. To believe anything other than that truth is being considered by every business owner, employing 70% of Americans, is dishonest and ignorant. I miss the days of making my employees wealthy, I hope to see them again my lifetime. I'm not sure that I will.
el paso
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August 24, 2010
The teabaggers are an unsophisticated lot. They buy the GOP nonsense that the government should not spend money to stimulate the economy. The bail out kept us out of a depression, the problem is not enough money was spent on a jobs program. The republicans vote against anything that will stimulate the economy, because they want to return to power. Indian Joe would have children suffer for being in a home solely led by a woman.
Indian Joe
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August 23, 2010
Tom, you have forgotten that this is the goal of this now liberal governemnt - to make all people reliant on the government - what better way to control a population that class warfare and government deciding who works, who pays, and who gets the benefits. And Mike's wife, what in God's name are you talking about? The tea party members,for the most part, are people just like me, tired of working their butts off and seeing the fruits of their labors going to whatever programs this government, in their infinite wisdom, decides are just and fair. They have taken all incentive out of people trying to do better - just take it from someone who has worked and sweated blood and tears, and give it to those who have their hands out. What a crock. So I suppose anyone who doesn't agree with your ideas of what is fair and just - is a hater. And again, I will ask, has a poor person ever given you or anyone else a job? That is a big fat NO. So like it or not, unless we go totally socialistic or communistic, and we are not that far away from it right now - you need to have people who can provide jobs. Have you ever given any thought to the small businessmen who hire - or at least used to hire - 70% or more of the work force. If they lose their business who do you think bails them out - no one - they ahve just lost everything. So forget this junk about the wealthy - some have gotten it from family - but the majority are just people who took a chance and took a shot at the American dream - if they were sucessful they are not vilified - if not, they have lost everything. What has happened to this country - oh, that's right 2 1/2 years of unemployment benefits, free food, cell phones, rewards for having bunches of kids without a husband present, utilities, free school breakfast and lunches, and on and on. That is what has happened, and those paying the bills are getting tired of it.
Tom Bland
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August 21, 2010
I'm not of the opinion that "I got mine, the heck with you" but I am offended by leftist liberals that think its perfectly okay to reach in my pocket via the power of the Imperial Federal Government and take, by threat of force, what I work very hard to EARN for MY FAMILY! I am all for helping those who are less fortunate but on MY TERMS, for the amounts I CHOOSE, not some leftist, cry me a river liberal that thinks they know how to spend MY money better than I do. One of the many problems we have today is a direct result of well intended liberal policies that have, in my opinion, deliberatly kept a large and ever growing larger, segment of society in government entitlement bondage.

Capitalism, contrary to the lefts mantra, is not evil. There are some capitalists that are corrupt and greedy but the capitist economic engine has generated more wealth than any marxist, socialist or communist society ever and NO, it's not equally distributed, but neither is communism or whatever brand of "community sharing" you wish to term; there has been and always will be the haves and have nots.....get used to it!. The overwhelming difference is that capitalism provides an opportunity to better ones standard of living, but it takes hard work, lots of hard work. The problem with utophia as defined by well meaning liberals is that its not attainable, its been tried time and time again and it has always failed miserably. I don't understand why the left is hell bent on bringing everyone down to the lowest common demoninator rather than striving to lift everyone up to a higher, better standard of living, accomplished through hard work, long hours, blood, sweat and tears.

Success is hard work! Liberalism is easy.....let someone else take care of you.
sorry mikes wife
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August 21, 2010
Your'e wrong about the tea party...we are people who are just wanting the lunacy to stop. We're tired of taking care of everyone else, tired of the push for socialism, tired of Barack Obama's take down of our country. Sorry you feel you've gotten nasty emails, maybe you should look at your attitude...could you be the only one getting them? My emails from the tea party have been just fine.
Pat H
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August 20, 2010
As a fellow tea party member, please let Karl Rove know that I am also furious with Bush for immoral capitalism, McCain for amnesty, Clinton for the trade imbalance with China and George's father for all of the same. And I am especially furious with Reagan for his trickle down economics and amnesty. They are all sorry.
Mike's wife
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August 20, 2010
Sorry, from everything I have read (and I have gotten SO many emails from friends trying to convert me) the Tea Party movement is just "I got mine, the heck with you" folks who don't mind their taxes financing wars and giving people over $250,000 per annum income tax breaks, but God forbid we help the unemployed and the disabled and the working poor who can't get good health care. No deal. And there are lots of us non-tea partiers going to the polls in November, too. The nastiest, meanest emails I have EVER gotten have been from Tea Partiers. Not impressed. It's a HATE party. Make Love, not Tea.
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