Laura Armstrong: A vent about school supply lists ... and bus banners
by Laura Armstrong
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August 04, 2010 12:00 AM | 2104 views | 24 24 comments | 11 11 recommendations | email to a friend | print
School starts this week and parents are pondering the supply list their respective schools have published. Many have questions about the list, but really don't want to make waves, so I thought this would be a good place for them to vent.

For example, one supply list in affluent west Cobb requires "2 black Sharpie fine point markers" as well as "2 black extra fine point Sharpie markers" as needed supplies for third graders. Let's see. That's 88 Sharpie markers for the teacher, assuming 22 students. That's 440 Sharpies for the entire third grade.

Third grade teachers also want "2 packs of 24 number two pencils." What kid needs so many pencils?

But again, assuming it's for the teachers, that's 1,056 pencils collected per class. Or 5,280 pencils collected for the entire third grade.

Is our school supplying other, "less fortunate" schools perhaps, parents wonder?

Parents are asked to send ten glue sticks and Expo markers, no number suggested. Since the Expo markers are used on the dry erase boards, parents are pretty certain these, at least, are for the teachers. Some don't mind and look at it the way they do when asked to supply Kleenex, hand sanitizer and other incidentals.

But others believe if we are now supplying teachers, it would be nice if they were up front about it.

What's happening at your school? Are you afraid to ask questions about the lists?

And for those who read my Sunday column mentioning the banner-crazy CCSD transportation department, I laughed out loud yesterday leaving a store on Dallas Highway near the Avenue West Cobb. For parked in a bank parking lot, barely visible in all the highway chaos, was a large banner affixed to a CCSD special ed bus, informing (mostly Paulding county commuters, I'd say) that bus routes are available on line.

Number one, I wonder how much taxpayer money went to erect these makeshift billboards? Were banner makers able to bid on them?

Not only that, Mr. Grisham or Ms. Lite (assistant), I would offer you some advice: To optimize your message, try putting the banners where parents will see them, like at neighborhood "nodes" nearer the schools. This was a cute idea, but per Advertising 101, if your target audience doesn't see the message, it's a complete waste of your PR dollars.

We anxiously await the next bus banner communication from your department, and good luck on hiring those drivers you advertised for in the Lassiter High newsletter. I still don't understand in this economy (and after you just fired so many drivers) why your HR needs are still not met.
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Umberto
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August 10, 2010
Dear "Cash Strapped Teach"

Please go back to school and learn how to spell and punctuate correctly, or use the spell check function on your word processor before you post your thoughts. PS- Thanks for the great job all you teachers do.
tax payer
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August 10, 2010
yeah, no money for teachers, buses, bus drivers or school supplies ? Then where did the school transportation department get the money to buy golf carts at the bus shops so they don't get tired walking around the lots? Children and education are the last thing on these leaders mind.
enoughsaiddummy
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August 10, 2010
@ Big D ... which I assume to be for dummy

SPLOST was presented to the taxpayers as an additional tax for new aqusitions and projects and since Cobb buses have never been air conditioned I would consider that a new project.

As far as using SPLOST for school supplies, it seems to me that the board uses said monies as they wish when it fits their agenda.
formerteacher12345
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August 10, 2010
The sharpies are often used by the students to go over the final copies of their writing before "publishing" them in books or on the walls. Why do you people always want to assume the worst from those who have devoted their lives to helping your children. You would be much better served to devote your time helping and encouraging teachers.
9th Grade Parent
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August 09, 2010
Why are the 9th graders @ Pope required to have the TI-Nspire calculator for Math 1? This calculator cost around $130. I'm sure it's a great calculator but I would have appreciated a heads-up on this request at the 9th grade orientation meeting in May. IMO the price tag is a bit hefty.
Big D
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August 08, 2010
@ enoughsaiddummy -

They can't do that. It's illegal. Turf money comes from SPLOST dollars the voters already obligated for turf... nothing else.

PERHAPS I SHOULD'VE PUT THAT IN CAPS FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND BETTER. GOOD LUCK ANYWAY!
Shameful
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August 08, 2010
How can a school system continue to demand more when the education being received is less? I have seen children who can not read, write or count.
Cash Strapped Teach
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August 08, 2010
Heads up parents. Teachers spend in the thousands out of their own pockets to supply many of the projects done in school. There are many parents who cannot afford supplies and the teacher MUST purchase them if they want each child to have the same things. Think parents who work in the business world. Do you pay for your pencils, pens, copy paper, folders, cleaning supplies, room decorations and spend numerous hours of your personal time working without pay. Teachers do not get payed before 7:30 nor after 4:00 PM. If you are talking with your teacher on the phone,in person or email it is on HER TIME. All those homework,newsletters, and classroom work is probably done on her home computer with her own purchased toner. I am tired of parents complaining PLEASE get yourself in your child's classroom and walk a mile in a teachers shoes. I have had numerous parents say they do not know how we can stand this all day. Parents do you get breaks during the day? We don't! We rarely eat lunch or even get to the bathroom when the students are in class. I hope this has given a picture of a teacher life. Do not get me wrong I love teaching but it becomes more difficult each year dealing with no supplies and being treated as if a teacher's work is lower than a toad's belly.
enoughsaiddummy
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August 08, 2010
ONE LESS FIELD ASTRO-TURFED WOULD HAVE SAVED ENOUGH MONEY TO SUPPLY THE ENTIRE COBB SCHOOL SYSTEM WITH THESE ITEMS.

TWO MORE FIELDS MINUS ASTRO TURF WOULD PURCHASE AC EQUIPMENT FOR ALL BUSES AND ONE LESS COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT CONTRACT WOULD HAVE PAID FOR THE LABOR TO INSTALL.

SIMPLE MATH COBB SCHOOL BOARD TRY IT....IT WORKS!
Main Line
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August 08, 2010
Why should a teacher ask students to buy supplies that he / she uses? Let each student buy their own supplies and let the teacher buy his/her own supplies. Very simple. This is not socialism.
Samuel Adams
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August 07, 2010
Privately educated, you obviously don't have children in the system if you believe the requested supplies cost $25 and children get two free meals. And as for the free education, please look at your tax bill. Sheesh.
homeschoolnmom
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August 07, 2010
It's not $25 for "community" supplies. I would spend about double that for each child.

Add to that the $100/child donation to the foundation. The Boosterthon. The many teacher gifts. The request two times within the year to replinish the supplies. Field trips - Performance Arts Series fees. They nickle and dime tuition out of you. I'm glad I'm no longer a part of the waste game.
privately educated
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August 07, 2010
I am so sorry that parents are upset that they are asked to spend $25 towards their child's education by donating needed supplies that teachers are not provided. Never mind that their children are receiving a free education. Never mind that many of their children are receiving two free meals a day. Then again, I guess they need to save their money so that their child can have the newest phone, ipod, and the coolest pair of Jordans in the school. My apologies.
NW Cobber
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August 07, 2010
Good gosh, woman! Last year the MDJ BLASTED CCSD for doing things "secretly" or "failing to get the word out" on bus route information. This year they're trying harder and all you can do is try to blast them for poor bus placement? REALLY?
pay 1 way or another
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August 07, 2010
I taught up north before moving here. In NY, we paid extremely high property taxes. As a teacher, I never, ever, had to ask parents for supplies. I had a decent budget ($500) from the district to order what I needed for students (paper, pencils, pens, glue...). They were also welcome to bring their own. I bought the rest myself (ie Lysol wipes, kleenex, cubbies, lamps and so on). This was over 15 years ago, so I know the classroom budget is higher now. My salary was also almost double my salary here in Georgia.

When I moved to Georgia, I was basically told to buy it myself or ask parents. I always had students bring in their personal supplies (ie pencils, binders, etc) and then asked for communal donations for things like Kleenex, wipes and so on. Of course, the taxes paid here are about 1/4 of what we paid in NY, so..........connect the dots, people!
Think about it
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August 07, 2010
Are some of the supply lists ridiculous? Yes. Should some of them be pared down? Yes. Would it be nice if the county would supply teachers with supplies like kleenex and lysol wipes? Yes. Do they? No. And on a teachers salary -buying 30 boxes of kleenex is a bit excessive - especially when the teacher isn't usually the one using them!

Also, regarding the lysol wipes - if parents would actually keep sick children at home - maybe teachers would not need to use them so much. I'd rather have a teacher who cleaned up and tried to prevent sickness than keep a messy unsanitary room.

Classrooms (especially intermediate elementary) go through pencils like you wouldn't believe. There are 36 weeks in the school year. If you buy 48 pencils for your child - that's a little more than one a week. And that's assuming the child doesn't break, chew on, pull the eraser off, take it home, or lose it.

And for the expo markers - I know that my child uses those frequently. They have small boards in the classroom that students write on during math and spelling practice. 10 glue sticks is ridiculous. Plenty of things on those lists are, but the truth of the matter is that most teachers don't get any money to buy supplies for the classroom.

And as far as middle/high versus elementary - of course they have less supplies! Think about how the curriculum changes! And a 13 year old is much more capable of managing belongings (i'd hope) than a 5 year old. It's a developmental thing.

Think - before you judge and blame.

Fmr Sedalia Park Mom
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August 06, 2010
My kids were always allowed to put their names on their belongings - the dry erase markers (EXPO) were used by them, not the teachers, for doing work on small dry erase boards (the chalk and slate of the new millenium, I guess). My family lives in MA and NH and they pay 3 to 5 times what I do here in property tax for houses of equivalent value (granted, NH has no income tax, so prperty makes up some of that). They aren't asked to suuply nearly the stuff we are. You'll pay one way or the other.
pet peeve
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August 06, 2010
I have been in some classroom recently and the teachers donated supply areas look like stores. I truly believe some educators have gotten the supply list and the teacher's wish list confused. A supply list should consist of necessary tools needed that reflect on the student's academic achievement. Since H1N1, all teachers want the hand sanitizer and lysol wipes.
Noni01
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August 05, 2010
I've not yet seen the banners, but can see great opportunity for hilarity depending upon the advertisers...

In regards to the supplies, we ARE supplying others, though often in the same class. I wouldn't mind that so much if I knew my child were able to keep his supplies and I had the opportunity to add additional items. It was interesting when he chose some specific items that were then given to a child (who had been bullying him) to use... an example of what NOT to do, give a bully additional ammunition!
Dry Run
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August 04, 2010
To CobbCoResident-The county buses you see on the roads Tuesday were the drivers doing a dry run of their routes, trying to learn them before the first day of schools, so the children will arrive at school on time Thursday morning.

Believe it or not, drivers don't always receive the same route every year and if they do, the routes can vary from year to year.
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