Safety director may face job ultimatum
by Katy Ruth Camp
krcamp@mdjonline.com
July 24, 2010 12:00 AM | 4453 views | 51 51 comments | 99 99 recommendations | email to a friend | print
County Manager David Hankerson has reviewed Public Safety Director Mickey Lloyd's military records and found no documentation for several medals Lloyd claimed to have earned, according to a letter to Lloyd the Journal obtained Friday.

Hankerson has given Lloyd until Wednesday to prove he has not "falsified, misrepresented, or otherwise been untruthful" concerning his Navy service during the Vietnam War. If he can't, a highly reliable source said Hankerson would ask Lloyd to resign or be terminated on Wednesday.

Phone calls to Lloyd for comment on Friday afternoon were not returned.

The military records, believed to be six to eight pages, do not support some of Lloyd's claims, according to a letter Hankerson sent to Lloyd on Friday afternoon, which the Journal obtained through an Open Records Request.

In the letter, Hankerson acknowledges that he met with Lloyd on Friday morning and states: "To ensure that the Board of Commissioners and I will continue to have confidence in your ability to provide leadership to the Public Safety Agency, your response must fully address the apparent discrepancies identified herein and you must present competent and reliable evidence of your accomplishments."

The Journal first reported on July 1 that the county had requested Lloyd's military records after discovering two different military discharge documents in his county personnel file.

Lloyd gave the county human resources department a DD 214 form on March 22, for retirement incentive purposes, showing Lloyd earned the National Defense Service Medal and the Vietnam Service Medal, said county spokesman Robert Quigley. But in mid-June, Lloyd delivered a different DD 214 to the county's HR department to be "included in his personnel file," Quigley said.

That DD 214 has those two medals listed plus the Silver Star, two Bronze Stars, a Presidential Unit Citation, the Navy Unit Citation and a Combat Action Ribbon.

When Lloyd was unable to provide documentation for those medals, Ott said Lloyd signed a release, allowing Hankerson to receive his full military jacket to resolve the discrepancies.

Other discrepancies Hankerson cites in his Friday letter to Lloyd include: biographical information attributed to Lloyd from the Smyrna Memorial Day Service, in which Lloyd claimed to have served as a Navy SEAL and received two Bronze Stars, a Silver Star and a Purple Heart; and a curriculum vitae from November 2005 that includes the Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart under the heading of "Honors and Awards."

Hankerson wrote that those awards were not included in Lloyd's military records he received from the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis on Tuesday.

Commissioner Bob Ott said Hankerson makes personnel decisions, while the Board of Commissioners serves as an appeals committee for those who feel they were wrongfully terminated. He added that none of the commissioners have seen the military records.

"If the information he claimed in the past regarding his military service cannot be substantiated, and, in the county manager's opinion, Mickey has been less than truthful, he should resign or be terminated," Ott said. "The department of public safety has always lived under a creed of honesty, and it is absolutely crucial that our public safety employees be truthful and lead by example."

Vice Chair Woody Thompson has told the Journal previously that he believes Lloyd should resign if the county manager believes he has been dishonest. But Thompson echoed Ott's views that the board is an appeals committee, so the issue, for now, rests with Hankerson.

Hankerson said Tuesday he would release a statement by the end of the week regarding Lloyd's employment, but no such statement was received by Friday night.

During the Marietta Fourth of July parade, Ott said he asked Sen. Johnny Isakson to help in expediting Lloyd's records, a request Ott said Isakson agreed to and completed. Ott said the commissioners felt the matter needed to be solved correctly - and quickly.

Prior to his service in Cobb, Lloyd served two years as deputy commissioner of Homeland Security. Lloyd retired as deputy chief of the Atlanta Police Department in 2000 after 29 years of service to the department. Since being hired by Cobb County, Lloyd has spoken at several events and his introductions included varied details of his military service during the Vietnam War.

The summer 2003 edition of the Cobb Fire Department's newsletter, "The Smoke Signal," included a few paragraphs welcoming Lloyd to the county as the new public safety director. The welcome included biographical information about Lloyd, which stated: "He served in the U.S. Navy Special Forces in Vietnam."

Most recently, Lloyd was among a handful of speaker-veterans honored on stage at the Smyrna Memorial Day event, held at the Smyrna Community Center. The printed program for the event stated, "Lloyd served 18 months in Vietnam as a member of SEAL Team 1, part of River Squadron 116, Mobile Riverine Force in the Mekong Delta. His decorations include the Silver Star, two Bronze stars, both with 'V' device, and Purple Heart."

Smyrna City Councilman and Vietnam War era veteran Wade Lnenicka said Lloyd verbally gave him the information used in his introduction.

But Robert Ledee of Woodstock, a former lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Marine Corps and Vietnam veteran who has been researching Lloyd's military history on Lloyd's behalf, said on July 1: "Mickey will tell you that he was not a Navy SEAL."

The county began looking into the matter after it received a letter dated June 7, accusing Lloyd of lying about his military record.
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Wheres the Sheriff?
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August 03, 2010
Someone please give this to real law enforcement..the Sheriff. He is the only elected official in law enforcement. I dont know why the Sheriff isnt running law enforcement in the county anyway. The police department is a dang mess. They dont answer to anybody but the Sheriff does and that keeps him honest. Someone please give these docs to the Sheriff's office they investigate forgery's and Mickey Lloyds document dang sure are, he needs to be prosecuted. Why isnt anybody pushing this? He used this fake crap to get these high end jobs and ends up winning in the end because no one will take a stand. Where are you Neil Warren???
Dog catcher
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July 30, 2010
Someone said Hankerson served in the military. Any awards here? What name did he use - Jones or Hankerson. The whole Cobb County Govt is in disarray and needs to be cleared up ..... Let's vote them all out of office starting this Nov .... Time to clean house ..
Pct 4
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July 30, 2010
Go ask Batterton he knows???? The guy went from partrolman to Captain in only two years under Hatfield ... I wonder why????
Brian Nickols
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July 29, 2010
If Mickey Lloyd is lying, who else is lying in the police department? I hate for any of these so-called "Mickey Mouse" policemen to protected me. At present, who is in jail because of these liers !!!!! What a disgrace to veterans and law enforcement officers ...... Why did Hatfield retire? I wonder if Ron Storey served in the military?
Frogpix
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July 28, 2010
We seem to be breeding a whole new class in this country. We call them LIARS. They are accepted as people who 'just made a mistake.' It is something akin to taking a wrong turn on a road trip. This is NOT the case. There are mistakes and then there are the cases where somebody out and out LIES to make themselves look better, more heroic, a better cop or security guard, etc. I wonder what Lloyd gave for a military background when they did his security clearance which he must have had to be connected to Homeland Security. Anybody checking that out?
HWY
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July 27, 2010
Lloyd has clerly comitted a federal crime, violation of the Stolen Valor Act. However, don't hold your breath on him being prosecuted for this crime. It ain't gonna happen. What will happen is his slick lawyer will negotiate a taxpayer-financed generous retirement package. Lloyd will then go on to employment elsewhere, outside Cobb county.
Army Paratrooper
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July 26, 2010
Misspelled the word "citation" on the DD214? Did anyone look into Lloyd's "college" records? The more you dig into this guy's resume, the worse it gets. Who vetted this guy? What a disaster!
No Firing
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July 26, 2010
Loyd will show up Wednesday with a fat cat attorney threatening to sue if he is forced out and will instead hammer out a great retirement package at the cost of me, you and the rest of the county taxpayers. Watch and see.
Concerned in Cobb
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July 26, 2010
This whole incident with Director Lloyd is just an example of the chickens coming home to roost. The Cobb County Police under his leadership has been in decline.

As we have all heard before, leadership starts at the top. The police department has had a lot of recent problems. For example, the DUI boating accident resulting in the arrest of one officer and the death of the other.

The hit and run incident involving another officer. There was also the recent situation with the officer's arrest for kiddie porn and last weekends DUI arrest of the Captain.

Not to say police officers are perfect but we should expect that they not be involved in criminal actvity.

All this to say, why would the officers be held to a different standard. Mickey Lloyd is only a yes man for Mr. Hankerson. Mr. Lloyd only does as he is told. So, this begs an answer. What has Mr. Hankerson let slide. This are both highly paid individuals with our taxpayer dollars.

Cobb County looks foolish to allow another 5 days to give Lloyd time to produce the information. This has been going on a while now. It seems that he is given extra time to see what other deceit he can come up with

I agree, he should not be given a choice to resign. This would keep his retirement intact. Cobb County citizens should not have to fund his retirement. He should be fired and prosecuted.
Truth hurts
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July 26, 2010
How come highly paid county officials are alway allowed to resign instead of being fired like the little guys? Oh Yeah, good ole boys. Fire him Hankerson or you should be!
Flag Bearer
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July 26, 2010
Army Spec Forces, your information about Adm Boorda is incorrect. It was shown after Boorda's death that he did, in fact, earn all his decorations. Moreover, Admiral Elmo R Zumwalt Jr who was Commander Naval Forces Viet Nam and later Chief of Naval Operations personally testified for the record that Boorda was authorized all the decorations he claimed and was wearing. Boorda was not being "investigated" but was in fact being smeared and destroyed by the Clinton administration and the liberal media, over a disagreement on war policy in Bosnia. Do a Google search on the Boorda story, then draw your own conclusion. However, I personally served under both Admiral Boorda and Admiral Zuwalt, and can tell you as thousands of other enlisted sailors will that both men were superb examples of military leaders, and there was not one phoney thing about either man. Were you aware that Boorda held EVERY rank from E-1 Seaman to O-4 Admiral? He was known as the enlisted man's Admiral. Please give this great man the honor he deserves!
Army Special Forces
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July 26, 2010
If someone under Lloyd's command did the same thing (false claims then handing in a forged document to "clarify" the claims), Lloyd would fire that individual immediately. As Lloyd is in a high position of authority and power, he must be held to a higher standard than most. His actions of deceit, lies and forgery are disgusting to the honorable people who served in the military, and also to the people of Cobb County. As for the Navy Admiral, he was wearing a "V" device on his Bronze Star. HE WAS NOT AUTHORIZED the "V" device. Funny, Lloyd claims two of these Bronze Stars for Valor ("V" device) along with the Silver Star. The Navy Admiral (Jeremy Boorda) commited suicde in shame as he was being investigated. Lloyd needs to go, pure and simple!
Burkett
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July 26, 2010
Making even a remote comparison of the Admiral Boorda tragedy to Lloyd's fake SEAL hero stories is an invalid comparison for many reasons. Boorda was a genuine hero, unlike Lloyd. It was the Clinton machine and their willing accomplices in the liberal media that set out to smear and destroy Boorda. Boorda crossed swords with the powerful Clinton machine over policy, concerning the bombing of targets in the ethnic Bosnia war theatre. There are a trail of bodies to testify what happens when one crosses the Clinton machine. Vince Foster is one of many who paid, like Admiral Boorda did. When it was established that Admiral Boorda did, in fact, earn all his decorations, the Clinton machine then foisted a new story that Boorda killed himself because of personal family matters, yet another lie. Boorda had outstanding ralations with all his family. The truth is that Admiral Boorda became another victim of the powerful Clinton machine. Lloyd was a low level E-4 who served 20 months on active duty and never saw a day in combat. His delusions about being a Navy SEAL and being awarded a Silver Star are a grave insult to all veterans, particulary to the men who really earned these honors.
Samuel Adams
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July 25, 2010
If Col. Ledee was approached by Lloyd to help establish his bona fides, then found out they weren't so bona fide, that doesn't mean Ledee is a flake. Before jumping to judgement on him, let's allow this to play out.

A few years ago, the Navy lost one of its best recent admirals to suicide because of accusations such as this. Adm. Boorda, as it turned out, WAS qualified to wear the service ribbons in question.

Mr. Hankerson, you have a duty and obligation to this county's veterans and all its citizens to do the right thing. The onus is on Lloyd to prove his repeated claims (and they WERE repeated and some of us have SEAL coins to prove it).

It's easy to establish whether someone is a SEAL. I believe that question has already been answered and should be grounds for dismissal right there. The citations are another thing. But let's allow all the players to step up and do the right thing before making premature judgements.

People's lives and reputations are at stake. That said, come on Mr. Lloyd. Come clean and do the right thing and quit stalling. Time is up.
A Messenger_B
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July 25, 2010
MDJ does not come off well by baiting readers with news plus opinion intended to provoke response, then asking for comments, then publishing a small or relatively small number of the comments. It looks inconsiderate to many given that time and effort go into composition of comments. It looks like you're cherry-picking reader opinions to those who find that a contrasting comment opinion does not make the cut.

I don't believe MDJ leadership is displaying befitting humility, and I doubt that you would feel a need to apologize or explain.

Not that I expect you to shudder in apprehension, but expect there to be comment about the objectional practice and about news coverage defiiciency--by MDJ and Neigbor Newspapers and by others--in micro-blogging such as at Twitter and perhaps elsewhere on the web.
Totally Disgusted
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July 25, 2010
Lloyd protected his police recruit instructors who got caught telling recruits to band together and help each other, and they left the room during testing. When a few recruits were found to be helping others with the test - instead of changing the policy and proctoring, the whole class was publicly fired (including recruits who had already taken the test and were not in the room).

Lloyd displayed a character flaw back then when he callously threw innocent recruits overboard, and Cobb County Commissioner Sam Olens (who is now running for GA Attorney General) went along with it.

GaGirlNow
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July 25, 2010
I agree with Taxpayer - make the liar pay back all he received. For too long these types have been getting away with it. I know one who lied about having 2 master degrees (1996) and ran the mental health dept into the ground and he was allowed to RESIGN thus maintaining his status in the merit system. IF you think this is "just a mistake" then you can never correct a child for lying because you just excused it in adults. And children learn from the examples they see - not the empty rhetoric of hypocrites.
mad voter
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July 25, 2010
We have a rash of liars running for public office. These men didn't "mis state" their records - any second grader knows when he is telling a fib so I guess that proves these men are dumber than an second grader. And who is dumber??? You who vote them into office! It is not a "mistake" - it is fraud and deception for political gain.
Beretverde
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July 25, 2010
Remember these few names- Aviation Ordnanceman 2nd Class Marc A. Lee (U.S. Navy SEAL), SPC THOMAS JOSEPH BARBIERI (U.S. Army Paratrooper),1LT DAVID R. BERNSTEIN (U.S. Army Paratrooper),MSG JEFFERSON DONALD DAVIS (U.S. Army Special Forces). All these men were awarded the Silver Star for Gallantry in Action, and were killed in action in the Global War on Terrorism. SHAME ON LLOYD.
KT45
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July 24, 2010
Just another Lying Politico
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