Sanderson on Cobb results: 'moving into higher levels'
by Kathryn Dobies
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July 09, 2010 12:00 AM | 2574 views | 17 17 comments | 15 15 recommendations | email to a friend | print
MARIETTA - The Georgia Department of Education released school-by-school results for the Criterion-Referenced Competency Tests for all of the state's elementary and middle schools Thursday afternoon. Superintendents from Cobb and Marietta school systems said, after initial viewing, they are pleased.

The CRCTs are curriculum-based tests given to students in grades one through eight in five subjects - reading, English language arts, mathematics, science and social studies.

State law requires that students in third, fifth and eighth grade meet or exceed expectations on the CRCT in reading in order to advance to the next grade. Fifth- and eighth-grade students must also meet or exceed expectations on the CRCT in mathematics. Students who fail, however, are given opportunities for retests and remediation.

Cobb County School District Superintendent Fred Sanderson said Thursday via email that he is encouraged by the progress being made.

"A preliminary look at Cobb's CRCT performance is very encouraging," Sanderson said. "Students are really moving into the higher performance levels across many schools, which is a tribute to our outstanding teachers. I'm especially proud of what the students at Clarkdale Elementary have achieved after such a difficult and disruptive school year. To show strong CRCT gains after what they've been through is really remarkable."

Marietta City Schools Superintendent Dr. Emily Lembeck said that she is initially pleased with most of her 12 school's CRCT score results.

"My initial thoughts are, overall, our schools did a really, really good job with the challenge of the higher requirement for mathematics," Lembeck said. "Overall, the test scores were stronger this year."

Lembeck said school principals will begin to analyze the scores this summer to see what they can improve in certain schools and what can be replicated from some of the more successful schools.

At Marietta Center for Advanced Academics, a magnet school for math and science on Aviation Road near South Marietta Parkway close to Dobbins, 100 percent of students met or exceeded standards in all five subject areas in grade 3, and most subjects in fifth grade, with the exception of math.

Although students must pass certain entrance criteria to attend the school, Lembeck said she was pleased that Marietta Center for Advanced Academics continues to show impressive results.

"Throughout all the other schools, there are high achievers as well," Lembeck said. "There continues to be an increase in the number of students exceeding standards, which is something we work toward. We want them to meet standards, but once they do that we must get them to exceed standards."

In Cobb Schools, Tritt, Kemp, Rocky Mountain and Timber Ridge elementary schools all had 100 percent of their third graders meet or exceed standards in reading, while Mountain View Elementary in northeast Cobb had 100 percent of its third graders meet or exceed standards in English/language arts. Third graders at Murdock Elementary and Timber Ridge Elementary also posted high scores.

Cobb had 100 percent of fifth graders meet or exceed standards at Rocky Mountain Elementary School in northeast Cobb in reading and 100 percent in English/language arts at Garrison Mill, Kincaid, Mount Bethel and Kennesaw Charter. High scores were also made by fifth graders at Murdock, Garrison Mill and Due West elementary schools.

Third and fifth graders at the Imagine School in Mableton and in Smyrna struggled with CRCT testing, especially in the areas of science and math. Fifth graders at Belmont Hills Elementary and Green Acres, both in Smyrna, posted lower scores also.

In eighth grade 100 percent of students at Dodgen Middle School, in east Cobb, met or exceeded standards in reading and English/language arts; while students at Dickerson took the top spot in the science and math testing categories. Students at Campbell Middle School struggled in math and science.

Marietta City Schools that preformed well in third grade included Sawyer Road Elementary in reading and Burruss Elementary in math.

High performing schools at the fifth grade level in MSC included, West Side, Marietta Charter School, Hickory Hills and Burruss elementary schools.

In eighth grade, Marietta Middle School had 93.6 percent of students meeting or exceeding standards in reading and 76.1 meeting or exceeding standards in math.

A few Marietta schools produced dismal scores, such as Marietta Charter School in math and Dunleith Elementary in science.

Sanderson warned that while the Cobb District made overall gains in CRCT scores, it still probably will not make Adequate Yearly Progress as a whole.

"As I've said before, it's unfortunate that the overall performance increases we are seeing on the CRCT won't have any impact on Adequate Yearly Progress," he said. "The standards for AYP continue to increase, and since the law looks almost solely at the performance of subgroups, it's possible that a relative handful of students could cause a school to miss AYP even though the school overall made tremendous gains."

The Adequate Yearly Progress report is released each year as part of the federal No Child Left Behind Act. It measures schools in three areas: academic performance, test participation and a "second indicator," such as graduation rate or attendance.

To demonstrate academic performance, a certain percentage of students and any qualifying subgroup of students must meet or exceed standards on state tests, such as the CRCT, in reading, English language arts and mathematics.
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Team Teacher
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July 10, 2010
DEAR "FORMER COBB TEACHER", You posted these comments on 7/9:

Former Cobb Teacher wrote on Friday, Jul 09 at 02:20 AM »

..."Every year we struggled to get 50-60% passing rates on the CRCT. This year that same school was 80% across the board". ...

MAYBE THE INCREASE IN YOUR FORMER SCHOOL'S CRCT PASSING RATE IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU AREN'T TEACHING THERE ANYMORE! YOU COMMENTS VIBRATE WITH YOUR DISLIKE OF OUR STUDENTS WITH HISPANIC HERITAGE! YEA! YOU ARE OUT OF A SCHOOL!

RUHUMAN?
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July 09, 2010
Oh! I know this game, ... if Clarkdale Ele. results would of been poor - I would say,...but after what they went thru this year, would you expect any different?

And when all else fails, which it always does, blame it on a sub group!

Jay, I so could do your job and my job simultaneously!
RUHUMAN?
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July 09, 2010
Mouse12, a rotten apple is still a rotten apple when compared to apples of less rot.
Come and sit a spell
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July 09, 2010
To "former teacher"--I am glad that you are a former teacher; your attitude and blatant prejudice towards minorities, especially Hispanics, is enough to make we want to vomit. EVERY student, regardless of background, is legally obligated to be taught when enter a US school. US law! Public schools operate under this law. There is no choice about who we educate, we teach ALL. If they don't speak English, we teach team English. It takes a little more than a year to learn conversational English for most ESL students, but 3-5 to learn the educational jargon associated with ITBS, CRCT and other normed tests. I applaud the work that the teachers in the high minority schools are doing. It's easy to teach in schools that have students reading 3 years above grade level, but put me in a Title I school any day because that is where the real need exists.
Re: mouse
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July 09, 2010
We are not idiots. In fact we are teachers who have always complained about the CRCT brought to us from ROY BARNES. The passing score for the CRCT is 49%! Wow, what high expectations the state has for the students of Georgia. If your child received between an 800-825, they are performing a grade level or two behind. The retake 5th grade math CRCT was at a third grade level. The ITBS is a national test that every student in the USA takes! We have students who did not pass any math or reading assessments this year, but they passed the CRCT!
ITBS doesn't matter
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July 09, 2010
I agree that the ITBS is an important nationally recognized test, but it doesn't have anything to do with AYP in Georgia. If you school is only judged according to its performance on CRCT, then that's the only thing they should worry about. I wish it wasn't the case, but I understand why they do it this way. Until the AYP rules are changed, ITBS will never be important to anyone in Georgia.
Mouse 12
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July 09, 2010
People who say GA ranks at the Bottom of our educational system are IDIOTS! How is it ranked?? SAT?? Compare APPLES to APPLES and do your homework.

All the spouting off about the CRCT being useless just cracks me up! A couple of years ago when scores were lower- nobody was talking like that. Whe ITBS scores increase they will say the same dumb thing about cut scores!
Ditto for ITBS
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July 09, 2010
Most parents do not know (and yes, even some teachers do not know...) that the CRCT is NOT a nationally normed test!! The ITBS IS!! This test, while not a total means of measuring a student progress, can be used to see how a child is performing/achieving and also how Cobb is performing in relation to other schools in the nation. (BIG HINT: Superintendent Sanderson's job is dependent on how the CRCT scores go...bad scores, no contract...good scores...keep contract....). I bet there is fluff!!

We have our children tested each year with WJ III at a learning center for a very small fee so that we can monitor how they are doing on a national level and TRULY know what is their area of weakness which we work on during the summer and if needed with tutoring during the school year---such a huge difference from how they measure with the CRCT! Anyone can shine like an apple in the state of GA with such low standards of CRCT!

Get rid of the CRCT!! Parents do not depend on the CRCT to see how well your child is performing!
PeterVV
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July 09, 2010
Walking through the halls of many schools - hearing the language challenges and the education challenges, there is NO WAY a full grade can be 100% meet expectations in any area unless to meet expectations, the student has to know their own name.

Based on the results alone, these tests are a sham!

Always lived in Cobb
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July 09, 2010
And to think, Sanderson and the BOE are going to increase class size AGAIN next year. Do they really think the scores will go up with 36-40 kids in a class???
www.honeyfern.org
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July 09, 2010
Isn't this enough of NCLB? The stress of this test produces students who can take tests but not think and teachers who work themselves to death to be "adequate" in the eyes of the government.

With regard to the ITBS, its use is not as widespread as it used to be.
Cobb Mom
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July 09, 2010
The only test results with any merit are the ITBS. The CRCT is a test used ONLY in Georgia and is a minimum standard for a state that ranks at the bottom of our national education system. Sanderson's "retirement" comes conveniently at a time when test results will go lower and the story will be told for the teacher cuts recently made.
anonymous
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July 09, 2010
It is a huge mistake to interpret that these scores mean real advances. The tests were markedly watered down, and cut scores for passing lowered by the state. Classroom teachers were completely blown away by the number of passing scores. Yet, they also report that their students are not doing as well as students in the past on IOWAs. Mmm....?
Show me REAL Math
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July 09, 2010
Stan -- the "improvements" cited by Sanderson are highly suspect. Cox lowered the cut scores... and low-and-behold, more students passed. Don't believe the hype. And before the Glover Street gang tries to noodle-whip me for my statement, riddle me this: if more students actually did improve, then show everyone their actual number correct year-to-year and what the cut-score changes were year-to-year. We all know this is a farce.
Stan Jones
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July 09, 2010
Congrats to Cobb and Marietta on their CRCT

improvements. However, it is a big mistake

to conclude that this test means very much

as a measure of educational progress. We

are undermining the love of learning with

these high stakes tests that pander to the

lowest common denominators. Learning is the

Thing and this kind of test will never be able

to show us if that is really happening. Maybe

it affords some school administrators bragging rights but it's pure drudgery for teachers and students, who could spend their educational capital on more worthy pursuits.
CRCT a joke
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July 09, 2010
First of all, Kathy Cox totally screwed up the whole math curriculum. The CRCT is not reflective of how your child is doing compared to the rest of the nation. The ITBS is a better tool to know how your students are progressing. The retake for the CRCT is so dumbed down that if your child did not pass that test, you have problems. Education begins in the home. If parents are not helping their children, the teachers can not do it all. These schools that did not meet AYP are in black and hispanic areas. We need lower class sizes, better teachers, and more ESOL teachers in those schools. I had a cohort at Greene Acres Elementary several years ago, and we would meet in different teachers rooms. There were a few teachers who had misspellings all over the classrooms on things they persoanlly wrote. If a teacher is misspelling, how do you think the kids will perform? We hire for diversity in Cobb County not based on professional excellence! That is a problem! CCSD will never meet AYP because they will not do the right thing. Let's see what next year brings!
Former Cobb Teacher
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July 09, 2010
Don't fooled by the marvelous CRCT scores. The bar is down on the floor. Even students who can't speak English are passing the CRCT. I used to work in the barrio (very close to Green Acres and Belmont Hills). Every year we struggled to get 50-60% passing rates on the CRCT. This year that same school was 80% across the board. Even Green Acres, a school that is 70% Hispanic, had 80% passing across the board, 90% in 1st and 5th grade reading.

If I ask you "do you speak English" and you give me a blank look and I am forced to ask you "hablas ingles?" I doubt that you are that good of a reader.
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