Memo to Regents: There’s no place for illegals in state’s colleges
June 13, 2010 12:00 AM | 860 views | 17 17 comments | 13 13 recommendations | email to a friend | print
The Georgia Board of Regents took a couple of tentative steps last week toward protecting taxpayers when it ruled that illegal aliens enrolled in the state's public colleges and universities cannot pay the cheaper in-state tuition rate, and when it required the presidents of those schools to determine within 60 days whether any illegal residents are receiving or about to receive any state, local or federal benefits, such as Pell grants or HOPE scholarships, at their schools.

But the Regents sidestepped the bigger question - the question that, to most Georgians, has an obvious answer. That question, of course, is "Should illegal aliens be allowed to enroll in Georgia's public colleges and universities?"

And the answer, for most Georgians, is a loud "No!"

Those slots in Georgia's schools should be reserved for the state's legal residents, whether native-born, transferees, out-of-state students or foreign nationals with the proper documentation.

State and federal law prohibits illegal aliens from receiving government benefits. But for some inexplicable reason, lawyers for the Regents have narrowly interpreted those laws so that they apply only to such things as tuition and financial aid (i.e., Pell Grants and the HOPE scholarship). They have turned a blind eye to the fact that admission to a public college or university, in itself, clearly constitutes a government benefit. After all, even the out-of-state tuition rate does not cover the actual cost of the education provided. The difference is made up by the taxpayers.

The Regents on Wednesday also set up a committee to look at ways to prevent illegals from getting in-state tuition. Among the proposals on its agenda are requiring each applicant to provide proof of citizenship and/or using the federal SAVE database for verification.

"We have more illegal immigrants than the state of Arizona and yet we are not using the SAVE verification system or cooperating with Homeland Security to verify citizenship," complained Phil Kent of the Americans for Immigration Control after the meeting. "So my question is, how are they going to verify it? They say that, but they have no verification system."

The Regents committee also will consider whether to recommend whether to deny admission to illegal aliens. We suspect most Georgians would reply that that should be a "no-brainer" of a decision.

The Regents were also put on the spot by last week's request from Cobb Sheriff Neil Warren, who formally requested a Georgia Bureau of Investigation review of whether the University System is violating federal law by providing "benefits" to illegal aliens in the form of education at tax-subsidized institutions of higher learning.

And the Regents first were drawn into the ever-more volatile immigration-reform debate after Kennesaw State University student Jessica Colotl was arrested in March for a minor traffic violation on campus and, after lying to police, was discovered to be in this country illegally. She was eventually given a one-year reprieve by ICE to finish her studies, but was ordered to start paying the out-of-state tuition rate, not the cheaper rate.

Her case has focused the public's attention on the central question in this debate - one which the Regents, college presidents and state Legislature until now have mostly ignored - which is, why are illegal aliens being enrolled at all?

Why, indeed?
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Frankie58
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July 04, 2010
drop...please by all means list your source as to "illegals pay 7 billion into Social Security every year". As daveyy said, CA is now on the verge of total shut down and 19 BILLION in the hole on it's budget...please explain how "illegals" are a "net positive ecnomic force"!!
daveyy
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June 17, 2010
drop, conservative estimates show that states with the largest illegal populations(CA. and AZ) just barely breaking even supporting them. Adding in federal expenditures puts the country as a whole in the red. Taking an average of conservative and liberal estimates of pop. counts places state support for illegals deep in the red. If you don't believe me you may go to CNN for the full report; check back to the week of 26 April.

Your remarks about illegals in college is too ignorant to respond to.
drop
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June 17, 2010
Illegals are a net positive economic force. One example is they pay 7 billion a year into social security. Most people do not compete with illegals for jobs and we are not having college applicants forced out because of illegals. Try doing some research, instead of repeating something you heard on Fox.
goldn1
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June 16, 2010
Ben Franklin stated, "The only thing more expensive than education is ignorance." If we do not educate illegals here in the U.S., then taxpayers will pay even more for it in the future. I say we educate illegals and allow them to contribute and better our society.
daveyy
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June 16, 2010
el paso,

Why would we want unskilled labour in this country when we already have it in spades? Moreso, why would we want it here illegally, taking jobs, student positions in universities, and valualbe society resources all the while not paying into the income tax base?

The federal government is moving slowly to ship illegals back where they came from and I will do all in my power to ensure the process is stepped up as I am sure that other will be doing the same.
el paso
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June 16, 2010
It is almost impossible for unskilled labor to gain citizenship, particularly if you are brought here illegaly as a child, such as Jessica Colotl. Immigration reform will come, and itwill not be shipping all undocumented immigrants out.
anonymous
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June 15, 2010
el paso,

Society also benefits when its laws are adhered to. Illegal immigrants only have to become legal to share in what this country has to offer. Why is it so hard for you to understand that? Again, please educate yourself before posting.

One question, el paso: do you use that same self-righteous attitude demonstrated here when you are speaking to illegal aliens about their need to become legal citizens?
Dustoff
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June 15, 2010
el paso - You are right I object to any illegal getting anything free. If they are here illegally then they get nothing for free, they come here legally then that's an entirely different issue and story.

And if you don't like it you are free to leave anytime. And take a car full of illegals with you and save us the taxpayers some money!!!!!

Free Ride
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June 15, 2010
El Paso - nobody wants to deny anyone an education or medical care. People that are here illegally have no right to our taxpayer funded services. Every individual is more than able to receive services such as education and medical care from the country they are citizens of.

If it's illegal to HIRE an undocumented citizen, then why would it be okay to welcome one into our public institutions? Why do we have border patrol? Why is there a fence on the border in Texas?

Seems to me that once the border is crossed, America is supposed to support that individual and not hurt their feelings by asking for their ID.

This is a no brainer.
el paso
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June 15, 2010
Society benefits from education, just as the individual being educated does. So yes, undocumented immigrants should be allowed to attend college. The truth is many of you would oppose any child of an undocumented immigrant receiving an education or even medical treatment.
daveyy
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June 15, 2010
el paso,

Have you actually read the article or comments posted? You're not looking so smart.

Like the BOR and others in elected office, el paso, you would rather sidestep the issue or point the finger elsewhere rather than face the issue head on. None of you are very good at it. Educate yourself before posting again, please, el paso.
CarolK
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June 15, 2010
The Regents are way out of step with both public opinion and federal and state law. It makes me wonder why such men are in the position of safeguarding higher education in Georgia.
el paso
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June 14, 2010
Are you people affraid that undocumented immigrants doing well in school will make you look not so smart?
Billy Joe Jim Bob
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June 14, 2010
It is so obvious that those currently in office are more concerned with the rights of those that are not legal, than they are with enforcing our laws and protecting our country and it's CITIZENS.

SO PLEASE, let's vote them out of office. They are after all, supposed to work for and represent us, the legal ones. The ones who pay the taxes that in turn support their payrolls.
gt-again
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June 14, 2010
Exactly, why should illegals be allowed to attend any public funded school. Where does the regents get the idea that the right to an education is more important than abiding by the law. Seems simple to me, if you cannot produce a social security number or other legal documentation, you cannot attend.
Dustoff
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June 13, 2010
Good question, why are illegals even being allowed to enroll in college. Because no one has the guts to stand up and say no!

Our Governor is a wimp, the Regents are wimps, are President is a joke and no one wants to enforce the immigration laws that are already in place other that our esteemed Sheriff.

Thank God he will do his job and does it well!!!!!
Pat H
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June 13, 2010
Even Perdue was justifying illegals in college. This is the most disgraceful "looking the other way", other than allowing subcontractors to hire them for public projects in direct violation of our laws. Why have there been no penalties for those involved?
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