Teacher: Layoffs breaking trust with educators
by Kathryn Dobies
kdobies@mdjonline.com
June 03, 2010 12:00 AM | 6317 views | 60 60 comments | 26 26 recommendations | email to a friend | print
MARIETTA - A sparse crowd voiced concerns about massive teacher layoffs and budget cuts at the Cobb school board's Wednesday night hearings regarding employee salaries and the upcoming fiscal year 2011 budget.

About 30 people and only four of the seven board members were in attendance. Of that crowd, nine people spoke.

The board is required to conduct a salary hearing, since it plans to furlough all of its 15,000 employees for five days next year. It is also required to conduct a budget hearing before it votes on the district's FY11 budget on June 9. The board approved a tentative $819.4 million budget on May 12, in a vote of 6-1, with board member Alison Bartlett dissenting. The FY11 budget begins on July 1.

Board members Holli Cash, Dr. John Crooks and David Banks were absent. Cash announced at the last meeting she would not make it to Wednesday night's hearings because of a family trip. Bartlett said Banks and Crooks had reported to board Chairwoman Lynnda Crowder-Eagle they would be on vacation.

A teacher was the only person to speak to the board during the salary hearing. Wes McCoy, from North Cobb High School, focused more on the massive teacher layoffs than reduction in salaries. He said he has been teaching in the CCSD for nearly 33 years, and is faced with feelings of grief as he watches his colleagues in the classroom cut by the harsh economic conditions.

"As economic realities have become known and your decisions have been made, my colleagues have been living on pins and needles," McCoy told the board. "We seemed to be as expendable as a filing cabinet: useful, but easy to replace."

McCoy asked the board to support the teachers next year and work on building trust among parents, teachers, administrators and the board. He also called out the district for using its new teacher evaluation form as a tool to determine which teachers would be cut.

"Removing teachers from their jobs, while it may be necessary, is destroying one thing difficult to measure on any evaluation instrument, trust," he said. "It sets up an adversarial relationship between school officials, administrators and teachers ... Using your new evaluation instrument as a criterion for dismissing teachers this year has really shaken the trust between teachers and the evaluators who should be members of the same team."

Roxanne Lopez, another teacher who spoke to the board during its budget hearing on behalf of the Cobb County Association of Educators, criticized the board about making a majority of budget cuts that would directly affect teachers.

"We also oppose increasing class sizes, and we definitely oppose balancing the budget when there's a shortfall on the backs of educators," Lopez said. "We ask of you please be creative in your new budgets and think about how to do other ways of balancing, instead of just on us."

When asked by Dr. John Abraham what Lopez would recommend as a different and more creative way to balance the budget, she urged members to look at other counties to see what they are doing.

"Look at the other board members in different counties, in different states, what are they doing that you're not taking account for?" she said. "How can we help do it? If you want us to come and be part of the board and start helping research, I'm sure a lot of the teachers would love to do it on their days off."

McEachern High School graduate Brandy Judkins also asked the board to look at other options for budget cuts, other than laying off employees and, in turn, hurting Cobb's economy.

"So when you've laid off teachers or closed schools you've lost taxpayers, you've lost homeowners, you've lost sources of revenue that you yourself depend upon to function," Judkins said. "Freezing of step-increases and a full work week of furloughs further, even exponentially increase that loss of revenue. Will we get this money back? Will we get these teachers back? Will we get these positions back? Maybe, I'm not sure. But I do have a feeling that we may be condemning Cobb County to a more austere and bleak future."

Several Pebblebrook High School parents spoke to the board about the high school being moved further down in the list of schools to receive artificial turf, saying it wasn't just about football, but about the dire conditions of Pebblebrook's athletic and gym facilities. The parents asked that the school be moved up to the first tier of installation and that they receive the excess funds left over from the turf installation to improve their facilities.

Following the meeting, a group of about 10 Pebblebrook parents stayed to speak to Doug Shepard, the district's chief of SPLOST, about Pebblebrook's athletic facilities, showing him pictures of cracked ceilings in the school's locker rooms and mold and mildew growing in the weight training room.

Shepard said he would be committed to helping upgrade the Pebblebrook facilities over the next few years, but could not promise the school would be moved up in the artificial turf installation schedule.

Crowder-Eagle said the schedule could go to the board for a vote, but would have to be placed on the agenda at the board's approval.

Following a delay - which was due to a lawsuit brought on by east Cobb resident, Walter 'Pete' Borden, questioning the legality of using special purpose local sales tax dollars for artificial turf - the district is poised to begin installing the turf this month. Shepard said the lawsuit has forced the district to re-evaluate the turf installation schedule, installing turf more evenly throughout the county. This change would move South Cobb schools like Pebblebrook and Osborne, who claim they have more of a need than schools like Pope and Walton, to further down the schedule, possibly impacting their football seasons.
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hellothereblueeyes
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October 09, 2010
I love my teaching job. Always have and always will. Just like any other biz. there are the good and the bad.

People have the right to voice their opinions and I am glad they are interested enough to be passionate.
fallguyx
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July 01, 2010
To Cobb Teacher: You have a job do you not. Many dd not have the chance to give up anything they where just let go. When you work for the tax payer , you have to do the will of the tax payer. The Board has to answer to the tax payer. The tax payer is tired of giving money to something that is broke and does not work. It is time you thought more about the kids then you do your own pocket. You choose to be a teacher and you knew what the pay and benefits where.
cobb teacher/parent
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June 12, 2010
I have had my fourth paycut in less than one year (2% Fall '09, three furlough days early '10, five more furlough days spring '10 and no step raise) in addition to benefits cuts for 2010-11 and higher out of pocket insurance costs 2009-10. I think teachers have a right to complain. The Cobb school board has cut my pay to the point that I can't afford to live in Cobb County. I had to move to Paulding Co. over the summer. I also don't have "my summer off" as many of you like to claim. I'm attending three different week long training seminars, if I don't attend summer training I get an unsatisfactory review.
fallguyx
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June 08, 2010
To those of you that want to form a union that is your right. Like most union workers your are lazy and think your above all else. I know about unions I formed one some 16 yrs ago and became its local president. The Bull that I had rec. from the rank and file was about not about taking care of others but what is in it for me. That is what I see here on this blog also. What is in it for me my money my job my my my. Just like those teachers up North who go on strike not because of thier students but for their own gain. You find the money then we keep the jobs you do not find it then you do the math. I do not think more tax's will work the people of the U.S and Cobb County are tired of being taxed more. If the CCSD where a privet business more teachers would have been let go due to the loss of revenue.
fallguyx
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June 08, 2010
To omg3: I went to school in Columbus Ga. in over 100 degree weather without A/C. Just a few windows open and maybe a fan if you where lucky. My Father went to school in a one room school house in North Ga. I also went to school in the CCSD in the late 60s and early 70s without A/C and yes in a portable class room. I have friends that taught back in those days and they had no complaints about teaching without A/C and portable class rooms. Like I have said we spend way to much on each student (compaired to the rest of the world) and have very little to show for it but low scores on centralized test and a high drop out rate.
Helen B
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June 07, 2010
How many of you know that they are hiring back coaches and leaving the let go teachers on the chopping block. Many of them with several years of service. There are many qualified teachers that are still left on staff that could handle these duties of coaching in addition to their teaching. What about the fat cats at the central office, what has happened to them and are they still on staff. The area superintendants, do we still need them while we are getting rid of actual teachers that teach our kids or how about double dipping adminstrators. While I am at it why does the press and media still promote a non existant teachers union and why will they not tell how many hours at night and on weekends that these teachers are putting in while they are been blasted. I have read some really disgusting posts from so called smart people who do not have a clue what they are talking about and who would not put in half of the extra hours for money that is just not equal with what they could get out in the business world and who are required to get extra degress just to keep up their jobs. I am not a teacher but I have three menbers of my extended family who are and I see the hours they are putting in and watch how they have to scrimp by to make ends meet just like a lot of other people do. They also have none existant raises and have been taking off furlough days and ask not to take off sick so you tell me and also told just to pick uip fast food to feed their families as they will not have time to prepare a meal and sit down with their families for a few minutes. spouses who are told to do their part to take up their slack when the teacher does not even have time for simple duties or to spend meaningful time with their families. What will the parents have to say with these huge classes that they will have to cope with next year and all the homework that they will have to do as they will not have time to go over it or do it in class. I am concernedand so should you be.
janicestrand
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June 07, 2010
The closing of OHS will really become a problem for you when failing students cannot attend their prom—let’s be real and admit it’s all about the prom when junior year hits. These kids won’t be juniors when the prom is held, so they can’t go! And hell hath no fury like a parent whose child is denied a chance to go to the prom. Oakwood is the alternative these kids need to get back on track for graduation—and prom. I personally taught the same course to students more than twice, more than three times, sometimes even five times before they “got it,” before they conquered their demons and passed out of my hands and into other capable and caring Oakwood hands. Reconsider your vote and keep Oakwood open.

High school students can no longer advance to the next class without passing all core subjects. In light of Campbell High School having one-half of the 2008-2009 freshmen class fail, it stands to reason that there are a large number of students who did not pass freshmen courses again this year, during what should have been their sophomore year. They will sit in a freshman home room next year, what should be their junior year. How will they ever catch up? Some schools, such as North Cobb High School, are not even scheduling failing students into the courses they failed; they will be told to, “Get the credit somewhere else.” These students are now sixteen and able to drop out of school, which many of them will do.

This is only one example from the sixteen high schools in Cobb (of course not counting OHS since it only enrolls the county’s failing students as they drop out of their home schools). Think of how many failing students there are in total, failing students who did not pass with a teacher the first or second time! They need an environment like Oakwood. Revote this issue, and keep OHS open for those Cobb students who need it.

Fwd to Enuff Already
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June 05, 2010
When all of curriculum and instruction is RIFed, then the county is being serious. Leave a few secretaries in the department to work with the classroom teachers to handle C&I. Once you are out of the classroom for three years, you become obsolete. Many have been out of the classroom for five to ten years and are nothing more than hot air.

fallguyx
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June 05, 2010
For those of you who think that seniors should have to pay school tax's. I hope you get old one day and have a small retirement income. With your 401K in turmoil and many have lost a good portion of thier 401K would you like to just take more? These people have paid school tax's for most of their lives and deserve not having this money taken out of thier retirement earnings. Many live on S.S and not much of anything else. But I see how it is among the young people of today and the GREED that has set in. As long as your little Johnny or Jane gets theirs who cares who you take the money from.
fallguyx
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June 05, 2010
In response:

Where did anyone see where I said teachers complained about conditions? My point was that in all the CCSD should get rid of luxuries in order to save money. A/C is a luxury along with buildings that are more like upscale Corp HQ buildings. As far as the new athletic fields I think I read in MDJ that the company doing the job was doing it for FREE. TEACHERS get off of your high horse and do what you where highered for TEACHING. As for those of you who say do the math, try it yourself. 70% of budget is payroll subtract the 170 or so million that is short and what do you get? Teacher layoffs like any business would do. Teachers will get my respect when they earn it and thier are some that have, just not enough of them.

anonymous
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June 04, 2010
Just gotta say it again, Oakwood High School was the first to go. Crowder-Eagle stated and the board's mission and vision statement would happen to agree that academic is to come first. Crowder-Eagle further stated that no high school would be closed.

It doesn't seem to take the board terribly long to lie. Jeez, not only do they close a high school, but they close the one that provides a purely academic environment.

Sprayberry Mom
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June 04, 2010
Tell schools like Pebblebrook and Osborne to stop demanding turf and other athletic equipment and then poof, we'll have a few million more for teachers. It just sickens me to read where some people's priorities lie in times like these.
to Enuff Already
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June 04, 2010
You stated:

4. There were NO head administrators job cuts or RIF'd admin jobs at Glover St to help make the budget cuts...Fact

That is not true. There WERE job cuts at Glover St. - in Curriculum and Instruction, as there were last year....it just didn't make the papers as all the other cuts did...

FOUR days, folks!
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June 04, 2010
I know it's easy to forget, but we took four furlough days, not three - our previous contracts were for 191 days, not the current 190 (why it was one day more than the rest of the state, I have no idea). That day is apparently gone forever, because our new contract is for 190 days, minus the 5 furlough days being discussed - and there is no talk of the 2% cut being reinstated - I think those numbers are our new base. Without a step this year, some of us with more than ten years, who are on an every-other-year step increase, will be on our third year w/out a raise. This isn't a "whine" - this is to clarify some facts for folks like 'samb' who clearly listens to Boortz too much. BTW - I don't belong to any union.
KeepTeaching
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June 04, 2010
Whoa Whoa Whoa on the teacher’s salary comment by LucyVanPelt

Don’t think that teachers are making terrible salaries. I’ve done the calculations and I should have stayed with my first career aspirations to be a teacher myself, but I believed the lie that I would never make enough money to support a family being a teacher. If you look at the teacher salary schedule for the same number of years I’ve been in the corporate world, a 21 year experienced masters degree teacher makes the same as me, one with a specialist degree makes more – and with a 190 day contract vs a 260 day work year. I know, I know teachers work more than 190 days, I get it, I’m married to a teacher, but all in all, it’s a good deal. No, it’s a GREAT deal.

Stay on the teacher track!!

Enuff Already
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June 04, 2010
Enough with the turf. We did not vote for turf on football fields on the ballot almost 2 years ago. We voted for splost and then they voted to allocate monies for turf. We were screwed and now we just need to let it happen. But I do however think they need to enjoy the splost money for the next 3 1/2 years as it will more then likely be the last time CC taxpayors vote a new splost in.

1. Teachers were NOT given an option to take furlough days rather then layoffs...Fact

2. Glover street employees and school administrators won when the board opted to vote yeah in getting 8 million in perks yearly rather then save jobs..Fact!

3. Not one suggestion on the CCSD survey was taken into consideration...Fact

4. There were NO head administrators job cuts or RIF'd admin jobs at Glover St to help make the budget cuts...Fact

5. The only person on the board that has any backbone is Bartlett...Fact

Now I would clearly like to know where all the savings for the past 11 years of splost, where CC has not had to budget in maintenance, technology, land purchase, new schools, additions for schools.et al..has gone?? For 11 years now, CC school taxes has not paid for the above items as they have been covered ny splost money and we only have 67 million in reserves??? As a CC taxpayor, how do we request a full audit from an outside management company to do an audit and evaluation of CCSD spending and waste? Clearly something is very wrong in CC.

Lastly, how many homes in CC? I am shocked to learn that 39,100 are seniors who are tax exempt.

Cobb Teacher
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June 04, 2010
Ga teachers need to form a union, and go on strike if necessary to get more money, benefits and no more furlough days! I'm tired of this. Teachers should get raises, not job losses.
LucyVanPelt
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June 03, 2010
I was reading the comments by some of the people here, and I must say, how ungrateful and selfish it is for some people to post some of these comments and to talk negatively about teachers, what a disgrace, I am an individual going to school to be a math teacher, and despite all this that is going on, I will continue on that path, but I see what I am up against, a bunch of ungrateful people, that only speak because they are not in teacher's shoes. Like teachers have these large salaries huh? Let me stop here.
to fallguyx
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June 03, 2010
Fallguy,

Where do you see teachers complaining about the conditions we teach in? Most would be happy to do without in order for more teachers to keep their jobs & agree that excess spending has taken place within the county prior to our current economic crisis. A little forethought on the board's part could have helped the current situation tremendously. To say teachers are spoiled or elitist in some way is utterly ridiculous. Decisions on spending, etc. are not made teachers nor do we have any impact on those decisions.

To SamB- We did take a pay cut & furlough days last year. We will be taking more furlough days this coming school year as well. As far as teacher unions, they don't exist in GA buddy.

Cobb Parent
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June 03, 2010
Wow! Mildew in the weight room- why doesn't somebody get in there & try to clean it. My son plays high school football in Cobb. He & teammates are required to stay after practice to clean weight & locker rooms. Booster clubs raise the money to support high school sports programs. It sounds like parents in Osborne & Pebblebrook districts need to get on the ball & start supporting their children's extracurricular activities, instead of depending on someone else to take care of it for them.
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