Light Rail
May 25, 2010 12:00 AM | 1000 views | 9 9 comments | 6 6 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Would a light-rail transit service up the U.S. 41 corridor be of benefit to Cobb County? Is there the political and public will to support such a project? And more to the point, is there the money for such a line?

Those and other questions will be discussed at today's meeting of the Cobb Board of Commissioners. Cobb Department of Transportation director Faye DiMassimo will make a presentation about the $2 billion project at today's meeting of the Cobb Board of Commissioners and will ask for direction from them.

"This is just a very large, complex effort and there has to be support behind it that starts and does not stop," DiMassimo said last week. "You just have to really stick with it, have someone really driving it, have potential funding available, have the public behind it, and I feel now is the right time. In the past, a premium transit service has not always been the highest priority, but now it is something that is seen not only as enhancing mobility and relieving congestion, but also a tool for economic development in that area."

On the table is a system that would feature 14.6 miles of aboveground (monorail-style) track running from the Cumberland Mall area to the Town Center mall/Kennesaw State University area. Initial plans are for seven light rail stations, with stops at KSU, Town Center, WellStar Kennestone Hospital, Southern Polytechnic State University, Dobbins Air Reserve Base, Windy Ridge Parkway and Cumberland Mall.

The stations on either end would be multi-modal, meaning passengers could board either rail cars or buses. In addition, there would be 33 bus stops in the Cumberland/Galleria area and 21 more in the KSU/Town Center area.

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COBB REJECTED participation in the MARTA system when it was first created four decades ago, but sentiment has slowly been shifting toward rail in recent decades as the county has grown and traffic congestion has worsened. By the same token, though, there still remains significant animosity here against the MARTA system, which is perceived by many - fairly or not - to be poorly run and overly expensive to operate.

The light-rail service up 41 (Cobb Parkway), with linkage to MARTA's Arts Station in Midtown, was proposed by the Atlanta Regional Commission back in 2001, which included it in its 2025 Regional Transportation Plan. Such a system also was looked at by the Georgia Regional Transportation Authority during the administration of Gov. Roy Barnes. But his defeat by Sonny Perdue in 2002 took away much of the impetus for rail transit expansion, at least on the state level. The Perdue administration vacillated between focusing on HOV lanes, HOT lanes and Bus Rapid Transit as the "keys" to congestion relief, but never really got going on any of them.

The election of then-Cobb Commission Chairman Sam Olens to head the Atlanta Regional Commission helped put rail transit expansion back onto the front burner, and in 2008 the Cobb board adopted the 2030 Cobb County Comprehensive Transportation Plan, which continued to advocate a light rail service for the 41 or Interstate 75 corridor.

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SO DOES COBB NEED such a light rail line? Is the 41 corridor the right place? Will it be well utilized if it is built, or will it be a case of most people staying behind the wheel of their vehicles while hoping "the other guy" will ride the train? How much of a tax subsidy would be needed for the service? And let's be realistic: There is virtually no chance that such a rail line would ever be self-supporting from the fare box.

We're glad to see such discussions finally taking place in the open. There has seemed to be a growing consensus building behind the scenes among local elected officials for such a rail line. If so, they are putting the cart before the horse, so to speak. It would do them or the county little good for them to have their minds made up prior to getting public opinion on board with the idea as well.

In that sense, today's presentation and discussion are appropriate and overdue.
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Ripped Off Tax Payer
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June 01, 2010
Light Rail only be good to run Tim Lee, Sam Olens and Bank of North Georgia out on town with.
Tea Bagger
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May 29, 2010
Our rail into the city should be where it used to be: Atlanta Rd. Why they tore it out I will never understand. It was fantastic! I think the cops here do not want light rail because they fear losing their traffic offense revenues. Pouring countless billions into continued expansion and maintenance of roadways that just sit there is absurd. Public transit costs less than roads, and WAY less than you pay in road taxes plus your car expenses. Roads that subsidize use of privately owned motor vehicles are the biggest waste by our government, right up there with the public schools!
Just Nonsense
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May 25, 2010
Light rail takes people from point A to B. They need to go to C, D, E ... This is always a disaster. China built a multi billion Maglev train to nowhere. John Stossel has filmed coyotes riding on light rail trains because no one uses them. If we want to solve traffic issues, charge for entry like cities do in Europe. Fees are high during peak times, creating incentives for people to travel at less dense times. With those incentives, businesses change hours, employees change commute times, etc. We should not waste money on such nonsense!
Dustoff
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May 25, 2010
This concept was pitched by Sam Hensley about 20 years ago and was shot down by the BOC. The they got the idea of CCT, which has for most part served a minor amount of people at a high cost per rider.

For any rapid transit system to operate you must have riders, the must be willing to pay for it in fares and taxes. You cannot depend of government grants to operate it year to year.

So its pretty simple, the majority of the people do not want it, will not use it and do not want to pay higher taxes to support it.

The best idea is to try to make CCT work and expand it, if you have to have a public transit system.
Indian Joe
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May 25, 2010
And remember how we just HAD to have CCT? Now, do you ever see a bus with more than 4 or 5 people on it, it is costing a fortune to keep running, and cetainly does not pay for itself. Ever been behind one on Powder Springs Road, which is apparently ahead of schedule (probably with only a handfull of people didn't have to make many stops, but sit blocking one whole lane for as much as 2 to 3 minutes while traffic backs up to the square during 5:00 rush. If they have to sit to get on schedule, why can't they sit in areas which have the off-sets - why block an entire lane of traffic? And for how many billion are we going to get into light rail - sure stimulus money might be available, but that is like the new cops Clinton touted - they paid for them supposedly for the first year - then it was the city, couny, states job to pick up the tab. WHAT A DEAL
anonymous
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May 25, 2010
Not the answer. Figure a way to get people from Dunwoody and Gwinett area over to north and west Cobb, other than I-285. Problem solved.
Do something
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May 25, 2010
Georgia and Cobb county have plenty of rail roads already. Built by the State. Use what we have and save billions.

If the current leases with various railroad companies need to be renewed, do so. It will cost a lot less money than LIGHT rail. Governor Barnes - are you listening?
Train to Nowhere
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May 25, 2010
One needs a reason to ride a train and the capacity to get to a final destination after disembarking. Have these people ever driven GA 41? 50 years after the train is in place there might be a reason to ride it - but not today or 10 years from now. After getting off the train at either end there is no way to get anywhere without a car. And it will be so inconvenient for most to get to a station that few will try. The idea of using the existing rail line through Acworth, Kennesaw, Marietta and Smyrna makes much more sense, would serve many more people, cost a lot less and help to revitalize existing population centers rather than one of the butt ugliest commercial strips in America.
mk-
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May 25, 2010
I think there are federal funds available from the 'stimulus', that are on a time schedule. I can't remember the date that I read about, but it's closing in.(wish the details were included in this article) This 41 rail doesn't seem like much of a plan to help solve metro Atlantas traffic woes, just a sloppy plan to hope they'll get lucky w/ some 'stimulus'. Cobb Parkway-41 could be fixed, simply by doing what Gwinnett has been working on on Hwy 78 for the last few years, that was just completed!!Yep we are 10-20 years behind other areas of the country, & Cobb behind surrounding counties!! Marta definately should come to the Galleria area w/ a "Park n Ride",.. like North Springs. THAT would be the way to start. Also, the 'bus depot' behind Cumberland needs to be moved over closer to wherever the (future) Atlanta connector rail line would be. Heavy rail should have already gone up 75 to the KSU area. Then, if that groundwork would have been laid out 10-15 years ago,... then, NOW we could be talking about some nice (EAST-WEST_ light rail lines connecting us to Sandy Springs,... then over to Gwinnett.)

Atlanta will NOT be able to catch up! I encourage everyone to visit Denver-- THAT'S how its done! The difference??? IT'S DONE,... not just TALK!
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