Armstrong wrong on Clinton's efforts, tea partiers
April 21, 2010 12:00 AM | 732 views | 8 8 comments | 8 8 recommendations | email to a friend | print
DEAR EDITOR:

Based on her column ("Words we use really do matter...") MDJ columnist Laura Armstrong might benefit from some lessons in history, logic, and non-tea party wordsmith skills. She is short on historical facts and long on opinion with her assertion that ex-President Bill Clinton has been irrelevant during the brief history (five years) of her column. Either her memory is short, or clouded by the tea floating in the water.

At the request of President Bush 43 or President Obama, our 42nd president has participated in the following relevant efforts in the past five years either alone or with Bush 41 and 43.

* January 2005 - tsunami relief with Bush 41

* Late 2005 - Katrina relief with Bush 41 and formation of the Bush Clinton Katrina Fund

* August 2009 - travels to North Korea assisting in the release of journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee

* January 2010 - Haiti earthquake relief with Bush 43

* Ongoing - Clinton Global Initiative

The text of Clinton's speech to Center for American Progress never compared the tea party to Oklahoma City Bombers. Various conservative talk show hosts said it was so, but in reading the text it is never stated, nor inferred. He mentioned the "vast echo chamber" where words fall on the ears of the "serious and delirious, alike." I wonder if she read the full text of the speech or was parroting the tea party wordsmiths.

Historical knowledge would also help Ms. Armstrong realize Clinton's time in office resulted in the smallest government workforce since Eisenhower with four years of balanced budgets and surpluses, two items Armstrong acknowledges as top tea party planks.

Like Ms. Armstrong, I too am upset with the media coverage of the tea partiers. Why cover these small gatherings? There was a time when media coverage for "movements" was devoted to participant numbers in the tens of thousands or the arrest of key movement leaders. With so few numbers, and a message of hate versus solution, it's no wonder the posters of America's president with a Hitler mustache is the focus of the coverage.

Steve Nielsen
Marietta
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maylib
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April 23, 2010
Indian Joe - hmm, I seem to recall republicans fighting clinton on the budget. I believe that's why they shut down the govt. Gingrich is on record for saying he did it simply because he felt "snubbed" by Clinton over a person matter.

and I seem to recall republicans losing that fight.

I'm happy to see both sides of an issue. But your follow up again is evidence that you aren't.

also, I was well aware of who you were being critical of. otherwise my criticism would make no sense.

I think perhaps there's confusion at play but, it's not over here.

cowboy joe
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April 23, 2010
congratulations Indian Joe you are now up to two votes. Looks like a landslide.
Indian Joe
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April 22, 2010
Well cowboy and maylib - if you have really read my comment, maylib - you would have seen that I was criticizing Mr. Neilson's letter, not the column by Ms. Armstrong. Additionally, I guess the fact that Clinton had a republican congress that forced the balanced budget which led to the surpluses, doesn't mean anything. And cowboy, you better believe that someone who is willing to tell it like it is - not like people of your ilk would like it to be, or try to convince others it is, is going to come along and, the people being so hungry for honesty, they will succeed. Unlike you, I can see fault on both sides - I don't give the republicans a free ride. When is the last time you heard a lib/democrat say their party is at fault as much as any other? You see, we can see both sides, unfortunately you and maylib obviously cannot.
SafariLady2010
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April 21, 2010
Indian Joe would get my vote ALSO! There are not very many people that could do as poor of a job running this country as Mr. Obama has done. I say this and I am Black. Truth be told, I am totally disappointed in Mr. Obama's performance and not afraid to say it.

P.S. I am also a Tea Partier!! Whoo Hoo!!
maylib
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April 21, 2010
Indian Joe "that is why this country is in a such deep mess - too many people refusing to get their heads out of a hole and realize and listen to the other side of the story. "

The article you commented on is, in fact, the other side of the story Joe. You're criticizing you.

What you want is agreement. Precisely the echo chamber Clinton referred to. And when you don't get it, you complain, as you have below.

And what makes this funny is you just don't see it and will complain yet again after this is posted.

cowboy joe
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April 21, 2010
Since you are so brilliant why don't you run for President Indian Joe I'm sure you would get Kenneth D. Parrott's vote.
Indian Joe
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April 21, 2010
Mr. Nielson: I suppose a lot of people could be relevant if they were good will ambassadors with an open check book from the US government. I also find what you say about the Tea Party participants particularly insulting. As has been pointed out previuosly, every movement/protest has kooks who attend, but that does not mean they or their actions are condoned by the majority. In fact, I have personally heard others ask them to leave, or put up their signs. And, guess what, one of your heores, Hillary Clinton, amazingly applauded public demonstrations, and called them an American right when people were demostrating against GW. Guess it is only an American right if it is a lib talking about protests against a conservative and/or republican. And for your information, Ms. Armstrong was exactly right - Clinton is also a silver tongue orator, and he knows what to say and how to say it - and I did hear the whole thing, and he DID lay at teh feet of dissenters and Tea Party participants anything that might happen in this country even close to what happened in Oklahoma City. So I presume that the beating, etc during the civil rights protests were the fault of the protestors. In your clouded view, this would have to be so. But I guess to say so outright would not be politically correct. People of your ilk just astound me - you can turn any situtation around and whatever anyone else points out as a comparison, you can poo poo. I am certainly glad I am not as narrowed minded as you are Mr. Neilsen because unfortunately that is why this country is in a such deep mess - too many people refusing to get teir heads out of a hole and realize and listen to the other side of the story.
Daddy0
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April 21, 2010
Great letter, Mr. Nielsen. It won't receive a warm reception here, but that makes it no less true.
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