Cobb schools wait to hear budget news
by Kathryn Dobies
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April 12, 2010 11:38 PM | 4204 views | 32 32 comments | 16 16 recommendations | email to a friend | print
MARIETTA - Cobb County school officials are anxiously awaiting word from the Georgia Legislature about the state budget and hope to discuss firmer numbers for the district's budget at the board's meeting and workshop on Wednesday.

Michelle Luckett, Superintendent Fred Sanderson's executive assistant, said Monday that the district will likely hear from the state legislature about its proposed budget within the next few days, which will help the district to make further decisions on its own budget, including the discussion of what cuts need to be made.

"It will firm up and tell us exactly how much money the county will be getting or not getting from the state," Luckett said of news from the state. "It will give us a real good idea of where we're going."

Board Chairwoman Lynnda Crowder-Eagle said she hopes to leave Wednesday's meeting with more of an idea of what positions the district plans to cut. At the last board budget workshop, she asked each board member to compile lists - cuts they would consider and cuts they think are off the table - to be discussed at this week's work session. Crowder-Eagle said that since the district is facing a May 15 deadline to renew employee contracts, the board needs to start moving forward with its recommendations.

"We don't want to make this rash decision that some of these other districts have done and then have to go back," Crowder-Eagle said. "We're moving ahead, but I think we're moving ahead at a sensible pace. I just know that there's a lot of natural anxiety among a lot of people that might lose their jobs."

Also Wednesday, Luckett said Sanderson plans to discuss the March revenue numbers during his budget report. Sanderson is also scheduled to give a transportation update during the board's meeting.

Luckett said she was unsure what this update would entail.

Crowder-Eagle, however, said she was fairly certain that the update will be regarding the March 5 grand jury findings of "serious issues/bad management practices" with the district's transportation department.

Meantime, on Wednesday's SPLOST agenda item list, the board will hear from the district regarding approval for various maintenance and renovation projects, including new HVAC systems at Mabry Middle and Murdock Elementary schools; maintenance and renovations at Green Acres Elementary, Floyd Middle, Cooper Middle, Chalker Elementary, Durham Middle and Frey Elementary schools; asphalt paving at Mount Bethel Elementary and Lost Mountain Middle schools; HVAC and fire suppression replacements at Norton Park Elementary School; HVAC replacement at Campbell High, Lost Mountain Middle and East Cobb Middle schools; additions at South Cobb High School; parking lot modification at Teasley Elementary and Powder Springs Elementary schools; and a contract for repaving at Mars Hill Bus Shop and Pitts (South Cobb) Transportation.

As for the non-SPLOST agenda items, the district will ask the board to extend a contract to Ombudsman Educational Services, an alternative education provider that educates middle and high school students who are on long-term suspension or expelled. Approval for last year's contract with the Libertyville Ill.-based company was briefly contested when then-Chairman Dr. John Abraham said he had a number of concerns about the alternative education program, and saw areas for improvement. The board eventually approved the $1.65 million contract for the 2009-10 school year and looks to do the same thing for this school year as well.
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WellHelloLynnda!
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June 13, 2010
Not the same issue, but allow me to say:

"We don't want to make this rash decision that some of these other districts have done and then have to go back," Crowder-Eagle said.

Crowder-Eagle, when it comes to Oakwood High School, you will have to GO BACK to what it was originally. Why don't you check out Nashville. They did a 'rash decision' and ended up switching back. An ALL digital academy will not solve the problem. You know it, the board knows it, and Abraham is in Fred's pocket. I suppose he likes it when Fred pet's him; I don't know.

What I do know is that even the students of Oakwood High School said it. They said that NO WAY will this work. So, if the very students who more than likely would utilize such services say 'NO', then why go forward with it?

Who is getting the kick back anyway?

Don't worry, Oakwood is on you like white on rice. We's gonna find out real soon, ain't we Lynnda?...

Everyone Pays
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April 20, 2010
School taxes need to be paid for by everyone in society. Old and young. Parents or not.

The number of prison beds is directly tied to literacy levels.

You can either pay for good schools or pay for more prisons. It is that simple.

Georgia sends over 52% of its kids to school each day hungry and nearly illiterate.

You are going to pay for this one way or another.



In California "if the child isn't reading on 4th grade level when tested they will plan to budget building another jail cell. “Based on this year’s fourth-grade reading scores,” observes Paul Schwartz, a Coalition "Principal in Residence" at the U. S. Department of Education, said “California is already planning the number of new prison cells it will need in the next century.”

retirment
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April 19, 2010
Dear Teachers,

We ( the Bus Drivers ) of Cobb County are fearful of our jobs too. We heard on the NEWS, not from our boss, that the Transportation Department is thinking of privatizing the entire bus fleet. That means we ALL lose our jobs.

This might surprize most of Cobb County parents however. A dear friend of mine is retiring after over 30 years of driving for Cobb County. Want to guess at her retirement? A little over $400.00 per month !

What DEDICATION !
To Liz
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April 18, 2010
Actually, the new teachers at the lower salary schedules have already been hired and are currently working in the classroom. They are the ones who could lose their jobs if 49 percent teachers and administrators are kept. In addition, there are a large number of new teachers coming out of college each year looking for a job. Maybe a small degree of thought should go into your blogs next time.
sick of school tax
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April 17, 2010
Why does a single person or people who chose not to have children have to pay school taxes. I think if you choose to have children you should have to pay extra school tax on each child. These teenagers who get pregnant or couples who have 3 or more children,living off the state, mom stays at home and some get welfare and food stamps and some who don't pay property taxes and here I have to pay over 3/4 of my property tax into the school. It makes me sick!!! When the kid is born or starts school make the parent pay extra school tax.THEY CHOSE TO HAVE THE KID OR SOME OF THEM CHOSE THIS NOT ME!!!!! The state taxes on tabbaco,beer and now trying to tax soda so why not tax the parent on the kid for his education, don't tax me I did not have the kid.
friend of rosie
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April 16, 2010
to: LONG TIME COMING:

Please use proper grammar - ex: "their school" NOT "there school". Apparently you were not educated in Cobb County.
Who are you kidding!
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April 15, 2010
NO WAY:

You need to read before you speak. Special Needs students are federally funded. Basically the county earns twice for these kids, especially if they access a general ed class. Do not put expelled students and special needs students in the same sentence!!!!
Long Time Coming
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April 15, 2010
Accountability within the system has been completely lost. Change the paradigm of the entire structure of the system. We have in Cobb too many Principals that are still trying to run school like it was done 20 years ago. Principals today are going to need to start managing there schools and that means making teachers accountable for the product (student) they produce. Accountability is lack in this system and this is one of the main reasons parents are pulling there kids out of this system. You can do more with less, but you have to have buy-in from the elite workers you can maintain. Those not on this plan need to find themselves somewhere else to work because our kids are important and we (Cobb Board and parents) need to take a stand that the system will be overhauled and produce a system in the new millennium that produces students who have been feed the knowledge they need to be successful. The budget needs to resemble a new Cobb where change is adopted. It needs to produce students that are stimulated and prepared. The current system does not achieve this. It just so happens that this budget crisis has hit. The system has needed overhauling for at least the last 8 years I have been in it. I have moved one of my two children from this system and working on getting the other out. I currently don't see anyone on the Board willing to stand up for every child in Cobb and stop this downward spiral. We are bleeding when it comes to funding, but we are also bleeding when it comes to preparation. I view this from both a concerned parent, PTA leader at the LU and Council Level and a taxpayer.
A Teacher in Cobb
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April 15, 2010
If you want to solve the money problem, here it is in a nutshell:

- School should be Monday thru Thursday

- No bussing for kids 1.5 miles from school

- Stop spending money on sports. Use that money for education. Make kids pay to play sports.

There ya go. I am fearful of losing my job.

-ATIC
SPLOST
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April 14, 2010
I will never vote for a SPLOST again unless it goes directly to keeping and paying teachers what they deserve.
anonymous
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April 14, 2010
Pete V

Re: 49 %ers:

The money does not come from the same pot.

-Retirement pay comes from the Teachers Retirement System of GA----much of which the employee contributed themselves.

-Only the 49 percent comes from Cobb.

Using 49 percent employees IS a good deal for taxpayers. The county should use more of them---a very basic example:

Use 1 100% employee -$50,000 plus benefits OR

Use 2 49 % employees - $49,000(24,500 each) plus NO benefits.

Do the math.

(And I am not a 49 percent employee).
What2
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April 14, 2010
Two part time teachers with no benifits seems to me to make more sense that hiring a teacher full time with benifits. I also think it is a shame that you loose senority when you go part time. So a teacher with 10 years looses his/her position over some new teacher. That does not make sense (execept for pay). But I rather have my kids with a teacher with experience.
CORRECT
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April 14, 2010
Pete V you are 100%. That double-dipping occurs plenty of times in Cobb and Marietta city. People should be outraged,but it seems they are not.......
just saying
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April 14, 2010
To teacher and parent, you are right now keep your child out of the Cobb County School system, so they may grow up to be just like you; the rest of the world will keep going with or without you. Now after reading some of the comments I would like to know what kind of teachers are at Ombudsman, after talking to a few of them, they do not seem to be as smart, as the teachers in the regular schools. What is going on? Is the Board trying to cheap there way out? Are these Mexican Teachers?
teacher and parent
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April 14, 2010
Yes we have to educate all students unless they drop out or die. The students in the Ombudsman program aren't students I want in class with my daughter. Most have been arrested at some point, have been kicked out for behavior or drugs, etc. Believe me, you will not find any teacher who will work for $30,000 teaching these kids when beginning teachers make more than that.
It is only obvious
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April 13, 2010
Concerning the $1.6 million going to an outside business-- again, a very good point-- why not offer these positions to those teachers that are going to be let go by the county? Think about it-- offer, let's say, $30,000 to a teacher that will lose all their income and you can hire almost 55 local educators instead who will spend and pay taxes locally-- instead of giving that money to a company from who knows where? The board is so used to throwing money around that when it comes to crunch time it is hard to break old habits and look out for those teachers that they hired, in the first place, to do this exact same job!!
No Way!
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April 13, 2010
Why is it the taxpayers job to pay for students who are expelled? Those students parents should have to pay out of their own pocket for their brats who do not behave! I am tired of footing the bill for all these special needs kids. It isn't right that teachers will lose their jobs and classrooms will be overflowing because our money goes toward ill behaved and special needs children. Each child should get one set amount and if it costs your child more to educate them, you should foot the bill.
Pete V
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April 13, 2010
Wait a second

You get paid 49% PLUS your retirement salary. You are right you don't get teacher benefits you get retirement benefits.

all the Money comes out of the same pot.

And what about Sanderson - he also gets his retirement PLUS his 3 figure (don't know what it is up to now) PLUS he gets the super benefits PLUS retirement benefits

If you come back to work for the same school system from which you retired - then you are coming out of retirment and need to give up that money - until you retire for good.

No double dipping!!!!!!!!
anxious
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April 13, 2010
What about discussion about where the county stands in the rebuilding of Clarkdale Elementary? What are we waiting for? There has been no ground broken, nor have we heard any news since February or March
Gotabrain
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April 13, 2010
Southern Gal and everyone else complaining about teachers who retire after 30 years, tap into their retirement plans, and return to the classrooms: Don't you realize that the county is not paying for that retirement? That every month for 30 years the teachers diligently (and unwillingly, I might add) handed over $$$ to the state (not the county) to "hold" for them so that after 30 years of service the teacher could withdraw it? Why is that so difficult to understand? You act like Cobb School District pays them two salaries! No ... Cobb pays a retired part time teacher one half (slightly less - 49%) of his salary and NO BENEFITS! Got it? OK. Let's put this issue to rest.

And if you still think that your child will get a better education from a fresh face out of college than from a seasoned veteran, you really need to spend some time in a classroom. Most parents BEG principals not to put their children with "newbies." Logically, it just takes a few years to learn the ropes, learn curriculum, learn strategies, learn communication skills. These are not automatics. Education desperately needs a mentoring system to support new teachers, but who has time? With burgeoning paperwork and exploding class sizes, no one will take on any extra volunteer jobs. After all, morale is not exactly at a high point right now. We're all trying to hang tough through this crisis, but it seems the only pay cuts we're hearing about from around the state are directed at teachers. Why? I guess everyone has figured out that a truly dedicated teacher will do his job out of love for children. We always have, and we always will. But please, be fair.
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