Bad news gets worse for Cobb schools budget
by Kathryn Dobies
kdobies@mdjonline.com
March 26, 2010 01:00 AM | 5705 views | 62 62 comments | 21 21 recommendations | email to a friend | print
MARIETTA - The magic number for the Cobb County School District's budget shortfall might be $137.7 million, at least that's the conservative estimate Superintendent Fred Sanderson gave the school board Thursday, and plans to use going forward as he builds the fiscal year 2011 budget.

At a budget meeting before the board's regular Thursday meeting, Sanderson and district CFO Mike Addison presented a detailed chart of the projected budget for FY2011, which begins July 1. The chart included a breakdown of exactly how much money can be expected from federal, state and local revenue sources. It also included how FY11 is looking compared to the FY10 budget and previous years.

Addison explained that the previous projected shortfall of about $100 million for FY11 was based on the governor's proposed budget, and included a $25.8 million, or 4 percent, revenue increase to the district. Based on that budget, he projected $820 million in revenue and $922 million in expenditures - a shortfall of $102 million. However, Addison delivered the bad news, saying that number was overly optimistic.

As a conservative accountant, Addison came up with his own projected budget based on a decrease of about 3 percent in state revenue for FY11.

"This is based on the governor's proposed budget, and he is assuming a 4 percent growth, and as Mr. Sanderson said, we really question that," Addison said. "For the past year, state revenues have decreased 13 percent; for the past month it was 10 percent. We really think the governor's proposed budget is very, very overly optimistic."

With the new shortfall projection, Dr. John Crooks, the board's budget liaison, pointed out that the "likely cuts" Sanderson unveiled on Tuesday night at the community budget forum only adds up to $93 million - $44 million less than the district's revised projections.

"So what we're really saying is that your $93 million suggested targets are just the beginning," Crooks said. "We have climbed the mountain two-thirds of the way up, and we still have to get to the top. And the difference between 137.7 and 93.2 is where we've got to find the additional reductions."

Some of the likely cuts include: increasing maximum class sizes (for a savings of $53 million); six furlough days for all staff ($19 million); eliminating buses and stops ($2.9 million); reduction in central office and central support ($8.1 million); among others.

Board member Alison Bartlett expressed her concerns about increasing the maximum allotted class sizes, which means fewer teachers. She said that would adversely affect student performance.

When Bartlett asked the superintendent how he arrived at a cost savings of $53 million from increased class sizes, and wanted to know an estimated number of teacher jobs that would be cut, Sanderson was again brief on the subject. As he said Tuesday night, Sanderson did not want to throw out a concrete number on the cuts, because he said it would be based on attrition, although he did admit it could be up to several hundred.

Regarding teacher cuts, board members said they are getting a lot of questions from teachers regarding how and when they could be made. Board members seemed to agree that they would look at teacher performance, and not just seniority when making cuts.

Board members also talked about the likelihood of some of Sanderson's other possible cuts. Chairwoman Lynnda Crowder-Eagle said one cut that was officially off Sanderson's list was art and music. Sanderson also said it would probably not be possible for the district to go to a four-day school week, because it would have to lengthen the school days considerably, critically disrupting the bus schedules.

He did, however, say that the district is considering shortening the school year by about five days.

At the board's regularly scheduled meetings, the board members voted unanimously, with Dr. John Abraham absent, on several construction contacts, all of which came in well below the district's estimated SPLOST budget. Those projects included new roofs for Dowell and Kennesaw elementary schools, a new HVAC system at Varner Elementary School and renovations and additions to North Cobb High School.

In other business, the superintendent recommended pulling an agenda item for board approval of a Web-based management system which would link together all of the district's construction projects. Sanderson said the project came in under $200,000, which is within is expenditure range and does not need board approval.

The district also made plans to post a budget survey on its Web site that would ask for community input on the FY11 budget. The survey, created by the district and hosted by surveymonkey, would be anonymous and is meant to provide the board with insight on the public's budgetary concerns and priorities. District spokesman Jay Dillon said he hopes to have the survey up on the Web site some time next week and plans for it to remain online for about two weeks.
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J Balfour
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April 03, 2010
Remember the goof old days when Clinton balanced the budget and schools had all the money they needed? What happened when the Republicans and Bush had complete control for 6 yrs - disaster and they try to blame it all on the 2 years Democrates regained the congress but still had Bush veto everything they tried to do? It will take more than one year with Democrate congress and president to straighen out the mess of unpaid for wars and gifts to the drug industry.
parent/teacher/taxpa
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March 31, 2010
We have to increase revenue. Encourage all Cobb County residents to buy in Cobb! Make us think about every purchase. Where are your sales taxes going?

Encourage Cobb County businesses to make donations to Cobb County BOE General Fund. We have three Fortune 500 Companies: Home Depot, AT&T, and Lockheed Martin. There are over 27,000 businesses in Cobb. Make a donation to the General Fund to support Cobb County Schools. This supports your work force whose children attend Cobb County Schools; it supports the community who spends their money in your business; and brings patrons to the county to be residents, patrons, and supporters. It's a Win-Win-Win!

Wrap buses with advertisements, name sports' fields, auditoriums, and schools with the names of the biggest sponsors. What great investments in our future!
anonymous
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March 30, 2010
to youhavenoclue- We all know that the booster clubs and sponsors grease the palms of the coaches, in cash, that is where they get the extra money. They coach because they still live in the world where they are BMOC and love the fact that they do not have to get a real job. Look at how many coaches are implicated in teacher -student issues. What does that tell you?
anonymous
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March 29, 2010
Raise the millage rate!
Fed up teacher
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March 29, 2010
Get rid of area superintendents!!!! What do they do all day? Trust me, we won't miss them and we can pay 3 teachers on what one of them gets paid.
YouHaveNoClue
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March 29, 2010
It is obvious to me that some of you were the one's who were picked last in PE class and never made the athletic teams you tried out for. I say that because if you have ever been part of an athletic team you would know the value of coaches. There are many successful people in the world who were inspired by their coaches more than their teachers. Many coaches coach more than one sport and have pre-season training before and after school and during the summer. Coaches do all of this on top of teaching a full load and fulfilling all the requirements of other teachers. Coaches spend more time with students than any other school personnel.

Furthermore, if you think that coaches make so much more than other teachers you are seriously mistaken. If you broke down their supplemental pay it would come to about 10 cents per hour after taking into account practice time, game time, and training time. Coaches do not coach for the money, they coach so that they have a chance to mold young people into successful adults. They do it for the love of the game, and the LOVE OF THE KIDS. Athletics teaches life lessons that cannot be learned in the classroom.
another teacher
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March 28, 2010
Hey Art and Music. . .maybe you should come to my school. The art and music teachers get 2 hours planning for the whole week. If they need more, they get to do it on their own time. What's more, they do, and they do an excellent job. They also have afternoon duty every single day and morning duty most days of the week. Besides all that, they run honors programs and do lots of special projects with students in their free time. They get a 25 minute lunch, like all the teachers at my school. The teachers at my school don't get much personal planning time during school hours, either, because we spend our planning time collaboratively meeting to discuss our students, the data, and teaching ideas/strategies to enhance student learning, because we don't want any child to fail. Everybody at my school gives 100% every single day. I don't think we're the only school in the county to do this, either. The budget problem isn't going to be solved by teachers savaging other teachers or by teachers and/or the public demanding that the entire Glover St. facility be shut down. (Which could be done, but it won't solve the budget problem, and is akin to cutting off your nose to spite your face.)

It's hard to imagine a situation like the one we have before us. Our legislators have indicated that public education, the very backbone of our state and our future, is not worth funding. Our legislators and school board members are more interested in keeping their seats than biting the bullet and doing what needs to be done, which is to rewrite the QBE act, add a temporary increase to the sales tax, and raise the local millage rate.

Facts?
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March 27, 2010
Hey, Can't Argue Facts---The fact is that BPE, a 1/2 credit course is being taught for a whole semester (the same time as a full credit Math, Science, Social Studies, etc) and Health, another 1/2 credit course is being taught in another complete semester.

Why might the kids have to sit through double the amount of time to get only 1/2 credit? Why, to overstaff the PE dept with coaches, naturally
Not AC.U don't know!
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March 27, 2010
The post from it's not AC simply doesn't know what they're talking about. Try telling that to the parents who lost their asthmatic child to ashtma on the school bus during one of those stifling days @ the beginning of school & height of summer heat. I work in the schools & know of this time when double recess happens because kids are checked out due to stuffy air inside the schools let alone the buses. I see the HUGE schools like Alatoona, Kell, Kennesaw Mtn., etc.

If Sanderson would have done the cost projections like anyone in their right mind would do to implement something 3 yrs he wouldn't now be coming back with the possible need to recoup 5 days. That logic is very interesting to say the least!!! Perhaps it would be wise for him to have compared the difference between May & Aug. & Aug & Sept. in the average home let alone the size of some of the schools I mentioned. It is SIGNIFICANT. It's not AC, U need to do the math and this doesn't even compare to the extra wear/tear & fuel these extremely hot days put on the buses. Buses we are now going to be carrying more children with less stops many of which are highly asthmatic, diabetic, seizure prone, etc.!

The actual educator on the board, Allison Bartlet, is the one with the MOST sense who has mentioned all of these things & cares for the well being & education of our children. I have no problems with Crooks either. He is smart & an eloquent speaker. He calls fellow board & Sanderson on their actions. He was ridiculed for the cell tower things which was ludicrous. It brought us in $!! Isn't that what we need! Educators didn't have to take a pay cut or certainly not lose their jobs for it, just the opposite!! Some of U need to turn your brains on!
mk-
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March 27, 2010
Ok, so you all continue to ignore the elephant in the room-- how 'bout this as a cost saving idea-- THERE ARE TOO MANY AMERICANS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. It's American childrens fault!! Make American citizens sit it out for say , the next 5 years,... lets get all the children of 'illegals' a good jump on education. The Americans have had it too good for too long. There are plenty more foreign nationals that have a need for their children to be educated. We need to bring in all the worlds poor globaly,... educate them 1st,.... THEN, maybe we can slowly reintroduce some American children back into the (global) school system! THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, SI?
Hoodwinked
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March 26, 2010
Why have we heard no mention of reduction in Area Assistant Superintendents or curriculum supervisors? The school district is onion-like in its layers of middle management. Quite literally, these are teachers' boss's bosses, who also have a boss who also has a boss, whose boss is the Board. How is that efficient, Fred?
mad as hell
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March 26, 2010
Times suck right now and no one is going to be happy with the answers! However, leave the teachers alone already! Yes, we need art and music.yes,we need our planning time. Do you want to write the lesson plans at home on your own time? How much extra money do you spend on your job every year?? We spend alot and go above what is asked of us very often! Keep taking money from us...these things might stop. I would have no desire to these things.
cobb teacher AND mom
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March 26, 2010
OK! Really, I am over having everyone tell me that teachers should just be thankful to have a job.Well, that thankfulness is not going to help pay my bills when you keep taking money from my check!I like the idea of the 4 day work week. Yes,the buses will be an issue, but this is a tough time and we need a solution.Parents itis time for you to STEP up and figure out something to do with YOUR student for 36 extra days. And keep in mind I am on both sides of the fence. Troup County is saving tons of money with this plan. It is time for dear old Fred to stand up for his teachers and stop abusing us! Bottomline is teachers are not happy!
Meta Realist
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March 26, 2010
The football fields need new artificial turf---the county needs to get it done, ASAP! Raise taxes if necessary to pay for it. This is a priority item and should be approved at the next meeting.
Can't Argue Facts...
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March 26, 2010
Health is a 1/2 credit course

PE is a 1/2 credit course

Put them together it is a whole course and both are required for graduations.

This whole idea of letting people post their comments is silly when 90% of the people on this blog have no idea what they are talking about. I guess there has to be something to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
tit4tat
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March 26, 2010
AGAIN cut the fat at the top and the secretaries that need secretaries!!!! For HEAVENS SAKE it does not take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. Put Allison Bartlett in and take Crooks out. I bet she would take a cut for the schools!!!!! And why does Sanderson make more than the President after all it is just a county compared the the nation!!!! Get a clue and quit making the little man pay for your mistakes BOE. Think on this one if not for the little man YOU WOULD NOT HAVE JOBS YOURSELVES!!!!!!! So stop killing our families and future we just want what we work for not like you all that want something for nothing. And remember nothing from nothing is a big fat NOTHING!!!!!!
art and music
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March 26, 2010
I am all for keeping art and music in the elementary schools; however, I wish that so many of these teachers weren't such prima donnas. At our school, they have 40 minute lunches without any children to get through the line and they average two and a quarter hours of planning per day. They do perform "duties" twice a week, but rarely are their duties more than 20 minutes. Can you imagine how great our schools would be if classroom teachers had even one hour of planning per day? We go weeks where we "run" - yes "run" to try to get a little done during our 40 precious minutes - let alone if we need to use the restroom. Seeing all the down time art and music have, I felt that it was a reasonable cut. Or at least change these positions to part-time.
whoa!?!?!
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March 26, 2010
Actually, we do need to raise the taxes--whether seniors need to start paying, SPLOST needs to shift (with a state law change) or something. To those who feel that seniors should have this tax break, riddle me this...I'm 33 and don't have children, should I not have to pay school taxes anymore?
whoa!?!?!
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March 26, 2010
Man, this is getting ugly. Everyone has an idea on what to cut; who to cut; and why his/her pet shouldn't get cut. The reality is something must be cut. The number one thing we must thing about is the children. The second thing is what these cuts will do to the economy. I don't want to see sports or the arts take a hit. Nor do I want to have increased duties because the admin is getting cut. But someone's going to have to take a hit. Who is going to be?!?!?
??CCSD
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March 26, 2010
Cobb is looking at seniority when it comes to teacher cuts? Really? Meaning years of service? And what about those performance reviews? The ones that were pretty much fabricated because no one could be bothered to see what teachers are really doing from day to day? Interesting...
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