Sanderson's proposed cuts total $100M
by Kathryn Dobies
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March 24, 2010 01:00 AM | 5520 views | 57 57 comments | 58 58 recommendations | email to a friend | print
MARIETTA - Increasing class sizes, six furlough days for teachers, and eliminating buses and stops are all on Superintendent Fred Sanderson's short list of likely cuts to Cobb County School District's fiscal year 2011 budget.

Sanderson announced the possible cuts at a community forum on Tuesday night at Campbell High School. It was the second in a series of forums to inform the public about the budget for FY11, which begins July 1. The list of cuts added up to $100 million, although the superintendent speculated that the budget deficit would likely be around $130 million when the final numbers come in from the state.

District officials admitted that increasing class sizes, which is expected to save about $53 million, goes hand-in-hand with teacher layoffs.

Several newer Cobb teachers, such as Rebecca Lee, asked board members how they plan to cut teachers and expressed worry that newer teachers would lose their jobs first, despite glowing yearly reviews.

Sanderson and several board members assured the teachers that seniority would not be the only thing taken into account when deciding about layoffs.

"I agree with you, it's not about last hire, first fire," Board member Holli Cash said. "We're not going to do that, I'm sure. The board wouldn't recommend that."

Later, Lee said that the feeling among most teachers was of frustration and uncertainty.

"It's just very frustrating being in limbo and wondering if I have a job or not," she said.

Another teacher asked Sanderson if he plans to lay off art teachers. The superintendent said the district is looking at ways to keep those who teach classes required for graduation first, but said there's no recommendation yet to layoff specific positions.

When asked, Sanderson said he could not project a set number of teachers who would be laid off at this point, since the district, which educates more than 106,000 students in 114 schools, does not yet know how many teachers will be retiring.

In addition to the estimated $53 million in savings the district would see by increasing class sizes, the six furlough days would save around $19 million, officials said. An item listed as a reduction in central office and central support would save the district around $8.1 million and is broken down into specifics like reducing approximately 45 central office supervisory, support and clerical positions, and reducing an additional 23 central support positions.

Several other items top the list and help the district reach $100 million, such as, eliminating 100 buses and corresponding routes, saving $2.9 million; delayed salary increases for eligible employees, saving $5 million; reducing 112 custodial positions, $3.9 million; and restricting alternative education programs, $2.3 million.

For FY10, which ends June 30, the school district has budgeted expenditures of $882 million and has $67 million in reserves, officials said.

Sanderson unveiled his list of likely cuts in FY11 on a large screen for the roughly 100 concerned teachers, administrators, parents and residents in attendance to see - or at least he tried to. When the list went up, the text was so small that most of the attendees groaned and complained they couldn't even make out the words.

Luckily, several teachers in the audience had received the list of cuts from their principals earlier in the day and were poised to ask Sanderson and board members specific questions. District officials showed a short budget video and took questions both from the audience and from laptops provided to the public prior to the meeting. District spokesmen Doug Goodwin and Jay Dillon relayed laptop question to the board.

Although a few teachers and community members brought up the idea of lobbying legislators to repeal the property tax exemption for Cobb County residents over the age of 62, Sanderson wanted to make it clear that it was not his intentions to repeal it. He said the district is still required to pay a millage rate to the state based on the exempted tax dollars, which adds up to about $17 million annually.

"What I would like to see is that we're excluded in paying our local fair share against those dollars," Sanderson said. "And that's a revenue stream of $17 million annually that we would be receiving that we do not get funding for because we're penalized by the state paying on those exemptions. Now I support the exemptions and I'm a Cobb County citizen, just like everybody else."

One community member, Gary Osbourne, said the citizens were dreaming if they thought there was any chance that the legislators would vote to repeal the exemption.

"I want you to know that it's a pipedream if you think the 62 senior exemption is going away. The more time we spend discussing it, the less time we're going to have on balancing the budget," Osbourne told the crowd.

The district has maintained that this was a legislative decision made in the 1970s, and the school board has no authority to repeal or revamp the exemption.

While Sanderson did announce his tentative plan for cuts, he made it clear to the crowd that nothing has been set in stone and the board has not yet acted any of his proposed ideas.

Following the meeting, Dr. John Crooks, who was appointed the board's budget liaison by Chairwoman Lynnda Crowder-Eagle, said he has been traveling around to schools throughout the district speaking with teachers and administrators about their budget concerns. Crooks said he and the other board members were not consulted in the creation of the list, and that he thought the superintendent's action to distribute it publicly was a bit premature.

All of the board members, except for Alison Bartlett and Dr. John Abraham, attended the forum, along with district CFO Mike Addison.
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CobbOak
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June 07, 2010
Please help Oakwood High School continue to serve Cobb County Students!

Last Chance, unless you decide to sue because of their violation of due process:

6/9 CCSD Board Meeting

Public Comments - 7:30 AM sign in to speak

Board Meeting, comments - 8:30 AM

514 Glover St. Marietta, Georgia 30080

(Legal Adoption of the FY2011 Budget at Regular Board Meeting)
Enough already
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April 22, 2010
SPLOST funds is candy for these people to play with and pass out to their special interests. SPLOST was originally for schools, right? Tax us some more please. But make it hurt even more. We deserve it for allowing you all to represent our interest adn ignoring us. Right Dr. Crooks?
annoy54
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March 29, 2010
you are 100% correct anonymous. Double dipping is wrong. If you want to keep your teaching retirement go be a Walmart greeter.
anonymous
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March 25, 2010
the districts own rules say they go by seniority, just updated last month
John Jones
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March 25, 2010
I can not use my real name since I am a Cobb employee in a public school. What I would like for the board to consider is changing SPLOST to avoid a future crisis. I realize it won't help the current one. Let me explain.

SPLOST money can only be used for certain things and not teacher salaries, etc. But what if the next time SPLOST is up for vote that a line is put in it that says "we reserve the right to divert ...% of the funds in SPLOST to school employees in case of budget crises, natural disaster, war, etc. Cobb has a lot of money in SPLOST now. If a certain portion of that could be used, then we wouldn't have to be laying off teachers (or not as many), etc. Its too bad that those who set up SPLOST didn't consider that. Otherwise, this budget crises could have been far less than what it is now.
CommonSense33
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March 25, 2010
If teachers and school administrators would stop breaking laws and policies, you wouldn't need my central office job---until then, someone has to protect Cobb from law suits.
Interested Bystander
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March 24, 2010
A couple ideas:

1. The retirement system is not self administered like the county government system. The retirement system is administered by the State of Georgia (Teachers Retirement System or Employee Retirement System) and the school board cannot offer incentives to any employees to retire.

2. Many teachers and many central office employees including administrators are paid by the school district from state government funds so these positions cannot be cut unless state funds are cut. Only the locally (Cobb) funded positions can be cut and there aren't many of those.

Additionally, road funds cannot be diverted to the school board as it is controlled by the board of commissioners and most funds for that come from state and federal governments.

And yes, it's totally not fair to have to pay the ""local fair share"" back to the state to redistribute to less wealthy districts, but you can thank a governor and legislature from many years ago for that.
anonymous
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March 24, 2010
Stop people from double dipping.

there are several - including the super - who "retired" they are getting their retirement benefits and then they came back to work and get a salary.

If you come back - you should loose your retirement pay for the time that you are employeed.

Get rid of double dipping and you can easily find Millions.
Intelligent Answers
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March 24, 2010
OMG! Just raise the millage rate Cobb. My God! It's at 18.9. Spread the $100 million out over the whole county, not on the backs of teachers. Let me see, raise everyone's taxes about $12 a month or cut $2500 from my already small pay check. We didn't go in to teaching for the money, but we have familes too that we have to take care of and if you think that we will take care of out STUDENTS before our CHILDREN, then you're crazy. Cobb schools are great because the teachers go so far above and beyond what is asked or expected. We spend our own money and do things on our own time, because we love our jobs. Take that away, and why would anyone want to so what we do. PLEASE DON'T RUIN OUR COUNTY FRED!!!!!!!!
My thoughts
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March 24, 2010
Bottom line is NOBODY wants to lose their job, and everybody thinks somebody else should be the one to go. Problem is, the people who should go are the ones who have the power, so of course they won't be the ones. Everyone thinks the money should come from somewhere else, not out of their pocket. Young teachers aren't the only ones who could be ruined financially. People who have been in the system (or have been teaching for years but recently hired in Cobb) have financial obligations that younger people don't have (children, college, mortgage) but also aren't eligible for retirement. There is no easy or quick solution.
It is going to be...
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March 24, 2010
It is going to be a bloodbath. Using Fred's numbers a beginning teacher makes about 53k a year. The county said they could save 53 million by increasing class sizes. That means 1000 jobs, the way I do math. Why tell the teachers so they might be able to get other jobs before it is too late. P.S. Hollie Cash you might want to read up on the law, if you do not think senority will not be the determining factor in who keeps their jobs.
CobbGuy
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March 24, 2010
I am over 62 and the school tax exemption is nice, my wife and I lived on a modest fixed retirement income. My children did not use all 12 years in Cobb public schools, only the first eight, we went private school after that so we paid our share and got nothing for a long time. Kids all got scholarships and other benefits beyond the public school capability, our opinion. But... if the system needs more money use a sales tax, not propety tax. No problem with that. There were some good teachers in the public system then and there are good ones now. Pay them, keep them...
Fly on the wall
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March 24, 2010
So they're using something other than seniority to get rid of teachers now...hmm.

I guess that's why many teachers who aren't a part of the principal's 'chosen few' are getting unsatisfactory annual evaluations...after glowing classroom observations and no problems prior to March.
The Truth
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March 24, 2010
Most all school districts through-out the USA are facing what we are facing. The bottom line is when it comes to public education, the public does not want to pony up the money. Are you willing to have your taxes increased to improve your local school budget? You say yes, but when it comes on the ballot, you will vote no. It is time for the free education system go to a tution based education. This will increase student achievement, as parents will be more on top of their student's work since it is on their dime. The increase in student intelligence then will make for a more advanced society in which more jobs will be created and we will no longer worry about such trival things as budget cuts. Private school teachers are not better than public school teachers in any way, shape or form...they just have the advantage of parents who make sure their child is doing what is expected of them since they are spending the money for their education. If parents are truly wanting the best for their kids, make them pay for it.
Thoughtful in Cobb
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March 24, 2010
For those of you suggesting that CCSD boot retirement eligible teachers in favor of young teachers, think first. Where is the real experience in Cobb? Just because a teacher has taught long enough to earn a retirement income does not mean that the person is necessarily of retirement age, nor does it mean that the person can take a huge cut (up to least 40%)just so a first year,untested, novice, (yes maybe enthusiastic)young teacher can have a job. Maybe some of the veterans need their jobs, too. Did you ever think that some of those veterans are supporting husbands or wives who have lost their jobs? Or are supporting themselves on a single income? And they have given much more than one, two, or three years to Cobb - in many cases they have given thirty and more years to the system you now say should throw them out with no consideration. There is no single, good solution to this situation, but we all need to stop and think what is best for Cobb's real victims - the students.
COBBHSTEACHER
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March 24, 2010
If we could have real unions down here,teahcers would keep their jobs. I know many Republicans hate unions but teachers should not!!!!
Concerned Mom
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March 24, 2010
At a time where data reflects that our children are reading below level and SAT scores are marginal and THEY ARE only being elevated by students taking the ACT to enter college, we MUST not take funds from education. Why do we, the citizens and parents, believe that teachers should have 34 students in a high school classroom, have a mere 27 minutes for lunch accept pay-cuts and now possibly six furlough days and expect that these same teachers will or even should give quality education? Are you kidding? The Cobb Board better wake up and stop abusing our teachers. You see that educators are ignored on the steps of the State Capitol, but a backlash will come and it will affect our children. FIND FUNDS AND STOP CUTTING TEACHERS SALARIES... A 1-CENT TAX IS ACCEPTABLE!!! DO IT AND DO IT NOW!!!!
tit4tat
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March 24, 2010
If the Grand Jury would look into this one I am sure they would find alot more than they bargained for. Why does it seem that Sanderson ,Eagle,and ALL BOE members have taken no CUTS at all. I feel as a taxpayer in Cobb that unless you want another bankrupt county leading into a state you need to start at the top because that is where the big bucks are going. Yes look at Delta a CEO that made millions and look at the company now. These BOE members say one thing and do another ever since I can remember. increase class sizes NO eliminate routes NO furlough days NO START AT THE TOP!!!!!! Please people pay attention election is coming up and don't forget what we have had to deal with. I am sure that most of us would not mind a .01 sales tax if we could be sure that the BOE did not get it to make their pockets FATTER. And would put qualified people in positions instead of their friends... We all need to rally for our kids and the little folks because I see them keeping us afloat with what they already give up. Stop making the little man suffer go after the TOP!!!!!!
Aghast
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March 24, 2010
Imagine my surprise to get an email this morning from my principal telling me that my job was one of the ones "considered" to be eliminated. This list was made public yesterday. Too bad that I had to hear about it on the news and the in the MDJ before I hear it from my boss. I know these are hard times and we all need to be patient and helpful. I'm willing to do that. All that I would like is a little consideration and to be treated professionally.
A double dipper
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March 24, 2010
Why don't some of you look at the numbers instead of making ignorant remarks. The "double dippers" actually save the school district money! The retirement checks do not come out of Cobb County funds, first of all. Secondly, when you consider that Cobb does not have to pay any benefits for the retired worker, but has a huge benefit bill for full-time teachers-- the savings add up there, also. Lastly, in a block schedule, 2 "double-dippers" can teach 4 classes per day at and more students per year than the full-timer that will only teach 3 classes per day.

Do some research and find out how much the school board has to pay into the retirement system for a full timer. It is thousands per teacher. By the way-- the amount they have to pay for us "double-dippers,"--- $0.00

Want to save money? Hire nothing but "double-dippers!!"
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