Laura Armstrong: CCSD should not blame senior tax exemption for problems
by Laura Armstrong
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March 21, 2010 01:00 AM | 945 views | 20 20 comments | 20 20 recommendations | email to a friend | print
This is a column written especially for my senior friends who can be found at various McDonalds locations around town, sipping their coffee on a weekday morning, reading their newspapers and visiting with their buddies before heading back home to commence the business of their hard-earned retirement. It's also for my senior friends who've chosen to continue working because of the uncertainty of things or to supplement their now decimated retirement income or just because they don't want to relax after contributing so much already to this great country. You know who you are (Lanzotti, Stanley, Babcock, Rowe, Scibilia, Palmer and many, many more).

It's also a heads up for Realtors, as if you all haven't had enough to contend with in this difficult climate.

Nationally, the never-ending ObamaCare news has been bad enough, but can you believe the Cobb County School District now says it is suffering because of you, our seniors?

That's right. District policy makers have been quoted lately and, whether they know it or not, seem to be taking a play right out of the national left-wing handbook, by claiming they have suffered a $109 million loss in revenue from the homestead exemption given to seasoned citizens older than the age of 62.

They say because you are not getting taxed, you have cost them money. They even have a snazzy, jazzy bar graph and chart showing "revenue loss" with a five-year analysis of, let's face it, funds they haven't ever actually had but now really, really want. Never let a good crisis go to waste, because they sure highlight it a lot on their budget page at www.cobb k12.org/centraloffice /communications/news/2010/ Budget_Forum_infosht0310 .pdf) with a corresponding video talking about property tax discounts "few other counties allow."

I promise I'm as tired of school district news as any of you, but how can we let this particular scheme slide?

Is their new goal to tax our seniors more to make up for their own inability to grow a backbone and make the tough cuts?

"Everything's on the table," we keep hearing. But no details.

Double-dipper pensions? Wasteful spending? Bureaucrat jobs? Doubtful.

So what if their alternate agenda is actually a scheme whereby young homeowners are pitted intentionally against their elders to make up for the shortfall? As in, "How dare those old folks get a freebie and why don't they pay their fair share when little Johnny doesn't have astro turf yet?"

Yes, I realize I'm mixing my issues, but you get the point.

An Atlanta newspaper last week characterized the senior tax exemption as a "freebie," taking a clue or maybe even a direct quote from CCSD spokespeople. The topic has popped up randomly and anonymously on the MDJ Weblogs for a few weeks now, but has yet to ignite any fires. My guess is younger parents don't have time to peruse the blogs.

Is it only a matter of time before someone openly proposes a new tax for those now exempt?

If so, let's make sure we call it what it really is - a new tax, not "recovered revenue."

And if it happens, watch out. It'll be a firestorm.

Lbarmstrong3378@comcast.net
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Tax Breaks are Good!
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April 10, 2010
I am not a senior and have kids in public schools. Any opportunity for any group to not pay taxes is a GOOD thing. Turns out that the tax break attracts seniors who buy things, eat out, buy houses being foreclosed, attend and contribute to local churches, go to movies, work out a gyms, etc. Government bureaucrats love to pit people against each other to spend and waste more of our hard earned money. It is time for cuts in Cobb county schools - we have cut, businesses have cut, you have cut now they need to. Leave the seniors we need and love alone.
Just me
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April 03, 2010
I have asked this question to many people with no answer, who pays the taxes on foreclosed homes? Do the banks? Are they allowed to let it go because of the foreclosure? Just wanted to know.
Seniors Need to Pay
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April 02, 2010
I completely disagee that seniors have "earned" this! Taxes are not fair, but we can along way toward marking them more fair by requiring all property owners to pay their fair share. Age 62 is young these days - they can get a part time job at Wal-mart as a greeter to pay their tax. It won't hurt them. Exempt it at 75 - that is much more reasonable!
no bounds ....
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March 25, 2010
Laura,

Great article and I am so happy that you brought this to light. I am a 26 year old homeowner in Cobb County and I think to call the tax exemption that have been EARNED by seniors a "freebie" is obnoxious. Our seniors, in my opinion, are one of our most valuable resources. It’s impossible to supplement the decades of sweat that they have poured into Cobb County. To have some entitled politicly positioned EMPLOYEE of the state say that they are getting a "freebie" is a sin! I can’t say I’m surprised though ... these days "give me, give me, give me, what you got" is a common theme around ATLANTA. You can’t even catch a ride on MARTA without getting harassed by someone who believes that YOU owe them something. I have been following your articles closely now for over a month and I truly hope that you continue to dig into CCSD. They turn my stomach and their finger pointing tactics seem to know no bounds.

Thank you!

Friend or Fo
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March 23, 2010
Kudos to all the seniors that raised kids in CC and paid the school tax and now are able to catch a break. I think you deserve it. Shame on you 62 and older who never raised a child in CC and now want to live here due to the tax break! I say tax the ones who never raised a child in CC and did not support our schools to begin with! Problem solved!
Paidenoughtaxes
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March 23, 2010
Thank you Laura for your article. I am still young enough to pay school property taxes. In fact, I'm paying a lot more than my home is worth in this economy. I remember voting in my 20s for the law that provided tax relief to seniors over 62. I had no children when I voted and realized that my taxes may go up to make up for the senior citizens taxes. However, I thought after paying for school taxes for forty plus years, seniors should have a tax break and in good consience I voted for that. I have been paying full property taxes since I was 18 yrs old. I'm now nearing the age that I can retire and use this exemption and I am apalled that a few citizens are now bringing up to begin taxing senior citizens again. I think those people that want to tax seniors have not lived in Cobb County their whole life paying far more than their fair share. They move here, put their children in school then want the seniors to pay more. I am just sick and angry about this. CCSD and legislators, please drop this subject and get on with making everyone pay their fair share, this includes apartment residents, illegal families and everyone that uses the school system. Quit punishing the homeowners.
Joe Redin
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March 22, 2010
I have lived in Cobb for over 30 years. I am a homeowner with no children. I think I have paid enough.

Now can someone please stop the never ending fund raising door bell rings.
Not buying it.
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March 22, 2010
What a sham. I do not want to hear about the lack of property taxes. In the past few years MANY subdivisions full of $800,000 homes have been built on the former site of one small home. Cobb should be rolling in $$$ from those neighborhoods. And seniors are not buying those homes....
Watcher.
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March 22, 2010
As usual Ms. Armstrong is right on target!

If any CCSD Board, present or future, does away with the Senior tax exemption, they will quickly be dispatched from office. The Seniors, their Childern and Grandchildren will vote them out of office.

I really believe that current CCSD Board Members will be dispatched long before they can deal with the Senior issue.
Just Saying.....
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March 21, 2010
Tell your good friends at McDonalds that they really have nothing to fear. No politician in his or her right mind is going to go to the legislature and have that exemption reversed. None are willing to risk the wrath of the largest and most vocal block of voters in Cobb County with a take-away like that....it just won't happen. A moratorium on any further exemptions is probably more realistic.
Pat H
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March 21, 2010
Seniors aren't renting their homes out to 3 or 4 illegal families per single family home, who then contribute 15 or more kids per house to the school system. Seniors also are not incurring the cost of English as a Second Language teachers and free lunches, free breakfasts and who knows what else. If you want to free up money for the schools, take a look at the numerous boarding houses with 5 or more trucks and vans with ladders parked in the driveway and on the lawn. And get rid of them. Problem solved.
George Hamilton
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March 21, 2010
This tax exemption hurts the children of Cobb County. Fulton and Gwinnett do not have this issue.
ATF
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March 21, 2010
I have to admit to a certain feeling of guilt when I applied for and received the school tax exemption on my home. Supporting schools is something a community does. I believe in that.

However, I have since retired and part of my decision to retire was that my income would be (barely) enough without the tax. I can't afford to have Cobb County renege on that agreement now.



agree with ccsd
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March 21, 2010
I have to agree with CCSD on this one. 62 is still quite young today; in fact there are many who still have children in the school system when they reach 62; children, not grand-children. I might support this tax break for the elderly--say 75 and older, but not 62.
Retired 63
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March 21, 2010
I moved to Cobb County in 1968 and bought property in 1971, had two children in the CCSD..all that time until I reached age 62 I paid school tax even when I didn"t have children in school, but I paid according to the Tax Code Law. Now according to the tax law for being a senior at age 62, I finally get a break on my taxes...I've worked hard and paid my fair share of taxes...If the CCSD can't manage the money they have now then don't burden us senior's with your inefficient management skills when for the most part we haven't had children in the school system for many, many years.....If you want a fair School Tax then you need to tax each child that attends School...My guess is that people that live in apartments never pay their fair share thru their landlords property tax....I say again DON'T BURDEN USE SENIORS WITH CCSD PROBLEMS BUT PUT THE BURDEN WHERE IT BELONGS ON THE CHILDREN'S PARENT'S AND TAX EACH CHILD EQUALLY..THANKS.
Poor Mouth
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March 21, 2010
The CCSD is only raising a paltry $470 million in property taxes this year. How can they possibly survive? Good news is with the county economy the way it is, the school district doesn't need to worry about enrollment growth any more. All those shiny new cadillac schools built with expectations of ever growing subdivisions can be subleased for other uses. You won't need the space much longer.
James E. Stoll
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March 21, 2010
Kudos Laura, for having pity on senior citizens, even though we're not looking for pity. All we expect is for politicians to keep their word, which we should have known was a mistake from the outset.

We moved to Cobb County from the Chicago suburbs because we were assured, by County Government officials. that Senior Citizens would never pay another cent in school taxes here. We really checked before we settled. We paid school taxes in Cook County, Illinois that were 5 times what they are in Cobb County today and we paid our own way to educate our kids for 40 years. We finally left Cook County because the politicians there taxed us out of the county and the state.

What we found in Cobb County was typical of the thinking of a majority of the current generation of school children parents. They always seem to want to get someone else to pay for what they think they deserve.

First they initiated a 1%, 5 year sales tax, called SPLOST, to milk the visiting suckers from out of state and the senior citizens who they promised to protect. Once they got that short term tax operational, they kept it running for 15 years and they still don't have enough. Now they want to go for broke and once again bury the seniors, who live on fixed incomes, in debt, to pay for their own excesses, like turf on football bields. They have a common malady. They think they deserve everything they want. I have written a book on that subject, for whatever thats worth.

Well, we moved to get here and we will move again if we must, to get away from the bloodsuckers of Cobb County. There must be someplace left in America where seniors are still appreciated and allowed to live out their "Golden Years" in peace.

If this is all that is left of the America that I once loved and risked my life in a shooting war to preserve, it wasn't worth the effort. Taxation without participation in its benefits is tyranny too.

E. Neal
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March 21, 2010
I am one of those seniors over 62. In fact I am 70 years old and I only retire 2 years ago so I feel I paid my fair share of taxes over the years to support those who do not. I raised three children in the Cobb School District and paid school taxes until I was 62 to pay for other children to get an education also.

The problem with our school system is all the illegal children allowed to attend our schools and the parents are not required to pay anything. Don't get me wrong, all children should get an education. But every child in our system should be required to be legal and if not returned to their own country for that eduction.

With that done you would not need to place undue stress on those of us who have done our fair share in the past.
HLM - Smyrna
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March 21, 2010
Thank you for your support.

We senior citizens still get the " HONOR " of paying

the SLOST tax when we shop in Cobb County. This one way

the school board is hurting us.
SouthernGal
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March 21, 2010
Many Seniors live on a very meager income...some on SS alone. That bit of tax CCSD is missing could be what determines if they eat or take their medications.

Why not end the BOE practice of double dipping CCSD teachers...they are a drain on revenues. If you retire from teaching you should not be allowed to return to work at your old job with full benefits. By doing this you deny the new kids on the block a job.

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