A 'census-tive' issue
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Randy Blansett, census office manager for Cobb, shows the three official items carried by census workers, a statement of confidentiality, left, a census badge and bag, right.  <br>Photo by Thinh D. Nguyen
Randy Blansett, census office manager for Cobb, shows the three official items carried by census workers, a statement of confidentiality, left, a census badge and bag, right.
Photo by Thinh D. Nguyen
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MARIETTA - Census forms are in the mail, and the survey seems rather simple. But one question the federal agency is not asking is whether the respondents are legal U.S. residents or citizens.

The national headcount will be used to allocate $400 billion in federal funds and services, as well as determine U.S. House seats - so does that mean immigrants who are here illegally will in effect have congressional representation?

"Yes, if you look at it that way. Yes, it does," said Pam Page-Bellis, an Atlanta-based spokeswoman for the Census Bureau.

However, the Census Bureau is not authorized to ask respondents if they are living here legally, she said.

"Every question on the census is determined by Congress," Page-Bellis said. "We have the authority to ask what Congress tells us to ask. We have never asked about legal status."

Currently, there are thousands of American citizens - living in Washington, D.C., Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands - who are represented in Congress only by non-voting delegates.

Of Cobb's representatives in Congress, only Republican Phil Gingrey, whose district includes parts of Marietta, clearly said he does not consider illegal immigrants as his constituents.

Rep. Tom Price, who is also a Republican and certainly no fan of illegal immigrants, did not specifically answer whether he considers those immigrants his constituents. Nor did Democrat David Scott.

Said Gingrey: "I represent residents of the 11th district that are living here legally. While it is appropriate for local communities - who have no ability to address the systemic failures in our immigration system - to be allocated resources based on true population, illegal immigrants should not be counted in apportionment."

Gingrey said he is a cosponsor to House Resolution 3797, which would ask respondents to the 2020 census about their legal status.

Price, whose district also includes Roswell, said the census is "a critical process" and "should not be a vehicle through which to dilute the representation of Americans nor funnel money to those who are here illegally."

The once-a-decade survey, Price said in a statement, "must be handled accurately and appropriately because it determines not only the nature of our representation in Congress, but the allocation of precious taxpayer dollars. ... We need a fair and accurate Census that respects our system of laws."

Scott, whose district includes Smyrna and other parts of south Cobb, said: "It's important that we get an accurate count of everyone living in the U.S., as the Constitution requires. I believe adding a question about citizenship status might provide valuable information, but it may also discourage some from completing the survey, which could lead to inaccurate counts, short-changing already overburdened local budgets."

"Since states aren't required to use Census data to draw Congressional districts, the onus is on the Georgia General Assembly to find an alternate set of data that would exclude illegal immigrants when redrawing district boundaries. But as a member of Congress, my goal was, is and always will be to work in Washington to better the lives of everyone living in the 13th District," Scott said.

Smyrna Mayor Max Bacon, whose city has seen an influx of illegal immigrants, agreed they should be counted, so his city and other areas get the federal funding they deserve.

"But if the Census asks, the illegals aren't going to cooperate. They'd probably be hesitant to answer, and we wouldn't get the numbers - and the money that goes with it," Bacon said. "If I'm going to be funded based on population, it's fair for us to be able to count those who are here. Somebody a whole lot smarter than me would have to figure out how to count someone who is illegal and then get funds for them."

D.A. King, the head of the anti-illegal immigration Dustin Inman Society, said the census offers a prime opportunity to determine exactly how many illegal immigrants are in the United States.

"This is a perfect time to count illegal immigrants to get an accurate count of their real numbers, and then we should enforce our laws and send them out," King said.

Through the mailed surveys and in-person address checks, the Census Bureau aims to count every single person in the United States, and expects to continue collecting that data through the end of July, Page-Bellis said.

By law, the total headcount must be on the president's desk by Dec. 31, 2010, she said.
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sprdprmomy
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March 19, 2010
"Somebody a whole lot smarter than me would have to figure out how to count someone who is illegal and then get funds for them."

AND WHY SHOULD WE GET FUNDS FOR THEM????
sprdprmom
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March 19, 2010
It's not a race question when the answers list different nationalities. Because of that I answered AMERICAN.

If you are not going to have RED, YELLOW, BLACK, and BROWN - don't list WHITE. When you list that many nationalities, include where the white folks come from too!! By definition, RACE is "the classification of humans into populations or ancestral groups." So I guess it's reverse discrimination by not wanting to count the white folks by their individual race.

I fully agree with out2sea; they only need to know how many are living in the home.
Virginia Connor
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March 18, 2010
Wish I could've gotten away with answering HUMAN for the race question.Too bad one couldn't include disability as an identifying factor in the census-to let those with disabilities count.
Fleebus
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March 18, 2010
I was in Phil Gingrey's District until the General Assembly gerrymandered me into David Scott's 13th. With Phil I felt that I was respected, under Scott, I've been made to feel like a 2nd class citizen...not valued for anything, ignored & certainly not represented in Congress. Scott votes whatever which-way that Obama & Pelosi tell him to vote....

Scott wants the Illegals counted so they can be used to give his District more depth & to squeeze out those who would vote against Scott in the upcoming elections.
LOL Caprystar
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March 18, 2010
Caprystar, you may be SHOCKED to learn that the word for black (the color) in a few other languages is negro.

That good ole boy reach goes a long way!
Foot the bill
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March 18, 2010
I understand folks thinking that illegals should not be counted, but the federal funds needed to school their kids gets doled out based on census numbers does it not?

Local districts are required under federal law to provide teach em...may as well get some money to do it with.
Mary J Marietta
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March 18, 2010
As usual. King makes the most sense.
Watcher,
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March 18, 2010
Max, Please understand that Illegals should NOT be counted in the Census.
Fruit by the Foot
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March 18, 2010
Amazing how America has shifted from fighting "taxation without representation" to "representation without taxation," in relation to the illegal immigrants. That said, stonewalling the census does nothing productive for the country. I'd rather the government know (as close to) exactly how many people are living on our soil than an inaccurate, flaccid census.
Caprystar
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March 18, 2010
while that is a good question to ask on the census form.One that disturbed me was the one the census bureau is asking is the race question.it asks to mark either BLACK African American or negro.Negro! that's the old boy network language that is appallingly still in circulation.It shoots down the efforts of many Blacks and Whites that have tried to move on from our ugly past.Even more appalling is the fact that congress chooses these questions.All these so called intellectuals actually made a decision of such hurtful magnitude to those who have built this country.If that's what congress is about , than the census numbers will be unattainable simply because other than the fact that some folks will not fill out the form, a lot of people will pass up on it due to one hurtful word.in closing I just want to say regardless of your race or color,if you have tried to better race relations in this country you are not lumped with those who seek to destroy our cultural fabric.
Indian Joe
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March 18, 2010
Well, anonymous - if they are not returned, obviously they are illegals. What does beating your wife have to do with reapportionment or federal funds? That is a dumb comparison. And if there is a warrant,that should be up to the jurisdiction who has it outstanding - not the feds, unless you are one of those who thinks the federal government is the answer to everything.
Out2Sea
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March 18, 2010
The census requires a head count of it's legal citizens. I have received mine and answered that 3 people live in this house. Nothing more !!
Direct
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March 18, 2010
Phil Gingrey is my representative & his statement of which constituents he represents has gained my continued support of him when he runs for reelection. Thank you Rep. Gingrey for actually answering the question & not sidestepping the issue like Rep. Price. Thank goodness Price does not represent my area.
anonymous
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March 18, 2010
And how many forms do you think would be returned with that information? It also doesn't ask if you have any outstanding warrants or if the government knows you have stopped beating your wife.Duh!!!
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