Cobb lawmaker's bill prevents early school start date
by Jon Gillooly
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February 18, 2010 01:00 AM | 3532 views | 49 49 comments | 22 22 recommendations | email to a friend | print
ATLANTA - State Rep. Matt Dollar (R-east Cobb) introduced legislation this week that would prevent kindergarten to 12th grade public schools in Georgia from starting their academic year before the third full week in August.

"Many families in my district have told me that they have seen their summer vacation time disappear over the last few years," Dollar said. "My bill not only serves to enhance family togetherness, but will save our school systems substantial money and also benefit the state's ailing economy."

Dollar said because of the sweltering heat in August, Georgia schools spend substantial amounts of money keeping buildings cool for students. This typically results in August being the most expensive month for Georgia schools. Also, when high school employees return to school before the third week of August, it forces many Georgia tourist attractions to shut down early, resulting in economic loss for the attractions, their local communities and the state as a whole, he said.

The start date of the academic year has proven to be fiercely contentious in recent years in the Cobb School District. Last fall, for instance, the Cobb school board voted to start school on the first Monday in August over the protests of parents. Although both board members Dr. John Abraham and David Banks campaigned on a later school start date, both reversed their positions to vote in favor of the earlier one.

"It's very disruptive," Dollar said of the earlier date.

The earlier students report to school, the earlier teachers have to, disrupting the teachers' family reunions, vacations and summer camps as well as those of their students, he said.

Dollar expects school superintendents will oppose his bill. He said they argue in favor of an earlier school start date in order to finish first semester before winter break, so that exams can be taken before Christmas. But Dollar said the state has given school districts flexibly in allowing first semester to have a different number of days than second semester. And as for the argument that students will forget what they've learned on exams if they take them after winter break, Dollar said that argument is a shallow one.

"If they can't remember what they were taught two weeks ago why are we teaching them it to begin with?" Dollar said.

HB 1097 has been assigned to the House Committee on Education.

"It's been very well received by legislators and very well received by parents," Dollar said.

State Sen. Judson Hill (R-east Cobb) said all Georgians would benefit from a consistent and later school start date.

"Today with school beginning in early August, almost in July for Cobb students, taxpayers must pay for almost year round school facility operations, higher energy costs to operate schools and buses, expensive mid year children's camp programs for child care, modifications to child custody orders and a lack of focus on what's best for our children," Hill said.

Hill said he introduced an amendment to an education bill last year to do just what Dollar's bill provides.

"I welcome the opportunity to work with Rep. Dollar to help our students succeed in school and life," Hill said.

Among the bill's co-sponsors are Rep. Edward Lindsey (R-Atlanta), the House majority whip; Rep. Ron Stephens (R-Savannah), chair of Economic Development & Tourism; Rep. Joe Wilkinson (R-Fulton), chair of Ethics; and Rep. Don Parsons (R-east Cobb), chairman of Energy, Utilities and Telecommunications Committee.
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iRENE BEARD
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August 05, 2010
when my chiLden were in school they did not go back to until after labor day in SEPT WHY CANT THEY GO BACK NOW LIKE THAT THIS WAS IN COBB COUNTY
ReadTheConstitution!
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March 07, 2010
The fact of the matter is that this is not an issue that can be settled by simple legislation, it is a measure of constitutionality. If Matt Dollar is a Republican that he claims to be, then he would not support this bill that clearly exercises loose construction that is typically supported by Democrats. Whether or not this is economically and "family togetherness" sound or not, we have to question the fact that it is stepping over legislative powers. Since we are dealing with an issue of local government, why don't we have the locals vote on the matter? This should be an issue settled in November, not a piece of legislation settled in the Georgia general assembly.

By the way, I am high school student and I applaud any other students for being active in their local governments, such as "Wheeler Student." And Samuel Adams, please do not accuse people or who they are or are not.
get over it
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February 26, 2010
Negative Parents,

While you continue to bash our cobb county school board memebers, maybe they are listening to their voters. It could be that the positive in favor voters out number you? WOW, what a concept!! I have written to all the board members to let them know my support of the new calendar. People who support the new calendar also speak out too. The fact that you think the state needs to step in shows your lack of judgement also. We have elected officials in the local government who should be making this decision, not the state. People, if you don't like how the local government is working, MOVE (its simple!)
To Hmmm....
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February 22, 2010
As for the need to be tied to the university schedule: it's not needed.

How many kids are really involved in joint enrollment programs? Most take AP classes from the comfort of their own high school. Graduate schools of education (Kennesaw, GA State etc) would most certainly tailor their summer coursework around the school systems' calendars. Most of graduate work these days is completed in cohorts anyway. And if pay for performance passes, teachers won't be pursuing advanced degrees.

As for your comparison to NY. Sorry, but NYU is a private university. You need to compare the public schools which typically start after Labor Day, to schools in the SUNY system. In 2010, SUNY Buffalo and SUNY Albany start Aug 30. Nice try though.
Read it!!
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February 22, 2010
Matt Dollar just lost my vote - not because I am for or against this new calendar.

Because this issue isn't about the calendar or economics - but that this is a LOCAL issue.

East Cobb moms should not be able to dictate to the state when school should start.

Just like the Feds shouldn't be able to tell us what to do either.
4day
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February 22, 2010
Let's go to a four day week for everyone- schools, admin, etc That would save some money. Fuel, utilities, etc. Of course the parents would not be happy to have to find day care for one day, but then again, there are options out there
I'm a *Whacky* Mom
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February 22, 2010
To East Cobb Mom too:

I'm one of those *whacky* moms who is pushing for a longer summer. And, no, I don't consider it *whinning* (I'm guessing you meant "whining") when I lodge my protest.

I have a teenage son who will now be seeing his summer job earning potential cut significantly. We don't buy him a lot of extras--we can't. The economy has cost us a job loss and as a single-income family, a possible foreclosure. We've pared our budget down to the bare necessities.

My son earns his own money to put gas in his car and pay for music lessons that we cannot afford.

And guess what? Summer jobs DO help to "prepare kids to be adults."

Glad that week in February (along with that week in September) look "mighty nice to you." You apparently are losing nothing by having that bonus time. But keep in mind that there are others who ARE losing--and losing a lot. And we're not all *whacky.*

Look @ The Calendar
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February 22, 2010
To those of you who keep saying:

"Anyway you slice it, kids in georgia go to school 180 days. If school starts earlier in August it ends earlier."

You're wrong. Yes, the school year last 180 days, but kids will NOT be getting out early next year. They will actually be getting out LATER.

Why? Because inserted in the new calendar are week-long breaks in September and February which were not there before.

(Pay attention)

And since the Cobb County School Board is ignoring parents speaking out against the new calendar, I'm glad a lawmaker is stepping up to the bat and taking up the slack. Yes, it's a shame he has to be the one to do it. Yes, it should have been handled at the local level. Unfortunately, the Cobb County School Board is forcing this over their heads by not listening to the local folk.
East Cobb Mom too
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February 22, 2010
I am really not to keen on being an East Cobb mom when it comes to this arguement. Keep in mind folks that there are some of us who do like the calendar and are not a part of that wacky mom wanting three month summers for our kids. 180 days is 180 days no matter how you spin it. I bet the school has the AC running in the summer no matter what and the time between winter break and spring break is rather big; that week in Feb looks mighty nice to me. By the way, I went to school in the Mississippi Delta - no AC and started in August and went into June - stop whinning and prepair them to be adults.
Samuel Adams
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February 22, 2010
Cobb schools used to begin after Labor Day in the mid 90s. That was when the district was the leader in the state. Now it is resting on its laurels, and student achievement is suffering, though the board does its best to hide that fact as well.

In Ceritos, California, where they had a balanced calendar for years and years, but this year they went back to a traditional calendar to save money. California weather is mild year round, so why doesn't someone, anyone, ask this school district how it is saving or what it's basing the decision on? Obviously there is more than just air conditioning costs involved. Maybe it's time for some research here...

Additionally, to the Wheeler student: first, I sincerely doubt you are a student, but believe you are a teacher portraying a student. Your talking points are really getting old. For decades in America, students have studied without week long breaks or trips to Disney. Teachers too. I always marveled at the children who had 100 percent perfect attendence, and there were many of them. They never had week long breaks. This issue has nothing to do with student achievement and everything to do with teachers demands.
Hmmm....
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February 21, 2010
Anyway you slice it, kids in georgia go to school 180 days. If school starts earlier in August it ends earlier. If school starts later in August school is in session until mid to late June. Do you really not run your car and home air conditioners in June in this climate? And if school is in session for 180 days regardless of the start date, parents are responsible for caring for their kids day time supervision the remaining 180 days of the year, so these arguments about child care costs are really bogus. A little history lesson is in order as well. School systems in Georgia moved their start dates from September to August in the 1990's when the state university system changed their calendars from the quarter to semester system and chose August start dates for the first semester. There are a number of reasons why it makes sense for the K-12 caledars to be aligned with the universities. Summer semester of colleges and universitiesn start in late May. Just a few examples: How would teachers ever work on advanced degrees if they are not finished with school til almost a month into the semester? Joint enrollment programs between high schools and colleges would be impossible to have and bright students who graduate early would be delayed a full semester in continuing their educations. By the way New York public schools start after Labor day, but so do New York Universities. NYU's Fall Semester began September 8. University of Georgia Students have to be on campus August 12. So if our legislators are so concerned, why don't they talk to the Board of Regents instead of hijacking local control of our schools?
West Cobb Parent
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February 20, 2010
If the Cobb County School Board would do their job, we wouldn't need legislators to do it for them. The SB doesn't listen to anyone but themselves and consistently ignores the teachers and parents. To the voters - get educated about what the SBs are doing and get active in making changes to truly help our kids. I personally don't care when school starts but the SB needs to be fiscally responsible and do the right thing all the way around.

Parents - you need to know what is going on and get involved to make a change. The calendar is really the least of the problems - look into the curriculum-particularly math, why spending SPLOST III money on artificial turf is more important than replacing defective fire alarms and classrooms for all of the kids in trailers so they can have the same learning opportunities as the kids in real classrooms and not walk through mud to go to the bathroom.

Macks mom
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February 20, 2010
I do think that local control should remain that as well.

I also think that it is a bigger matter. If the state could make more revenue because some of these businesses and tourists attractions stay open longer, then the state would not need to cut budgets or give furlough days. If you think this year was bad, wait to see what happens next year when the summer month earnings come in from this year. More furlough days I guarantee it.

From a business stand point, it just makes sense. And you think the fall vacation prices are reduced. wait until they businesses catch on that people are getting fall breaks. The prices will be just as high as summer. I could lay bets on it.
Just Saying.....
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February 20, 2010
Hmmmmm......I would think Mr. Dollar should have enough on his plate representing the good people of Cobb County without weighing in on school schedules. Let's talk about taxes, lack of revenues, witholding state funds from the school districts, etc.

School schedules???? Really???
east cobb dad
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February 20, 2010
this bill would not be necessary if two Cobb County School Board members did not flat out lie to get elected. Both Banks and Abrams ran on a promise of later school starts. Both flip-flopped and voted for an earlier start date. I for one am glad to see Matt Dollar listen to the people.
Can Count to 180
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February 20, 2010
Ladies and Gentlemen, no matter how you slice it, Georgia students are in school for 180 days. If school starts later in August, it ends later, well into June. Do you really not run your air conditioners in your homes and cars in June? And just for a quick bit of history, August start dates for K-12 schools began when the State University system changed from the quarter to the semester system in the 1990's. They chose August start dates for their first semester and the K-12 schools moved their start dates up so teachers could work on advanced degrees during the summer and joint enrollment programs for high school students could still be possible, among the other multitude of reasons to have your K-12 and universities on similar schedules. So, state legislators who are so concerned about this issue, got talk to the Board of Regents!
Ne cobb mom
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February 19, 2010
The only reason our state representative's have to step in is because our school board is CLEARLY lacking judgment, and the skills needed to make good decisions for our children. Ia am so for this bill passing. Let's show our inept school board that something positive can be done. People are correct, it may not be something that our STATE government needs to be invovled in, but when our local governing sytem i.e the Cobb County school board, continues with their stupidity, someone needs to get involved. I applaud Rep. Dollar.
Wheeler Student
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February 19, 2010
Its interesting to see that no one has even mentioned the people who are affected the most. The students are the most important in this situation and maybe somebody should have asked them about it. I am currently a high school student taking course that people in their sophomore year of college wouldn't be taking. This new schedule is a blessing for me. Having a week off in February and September are very important to me and many students I know because we are constantly getting pounded with new material. This balanced calendar allows for valuable breaks and recovery time for students. For once the school system did something to benefit the people that really matter and now someone wants to take it away. Stop listening to the whiney, stuck-up, East Cobb moms that have to have their way and start listening to the people most affected by the decisions of the school board and government.
anonymous
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February 19, 2010
Dear Long Time Observer -

how insulting - I do take care of my kids - putting off my career to do so. I brought these kids into this world and I am responsible for them. I volunteer at all my kids schools to make it easier on the administration and the teaches. I am there before and after school taking them where they need to go and doing what they need to be productive citizens. This is not an issue of whiny parents. If any one is whiny it is the East Cobb we want summers group that is demanding 3 months off.

Stay on task - this is Cobb county's issue. Don't make it a state issue.
ATF
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February 19, 2010
This is an issue for Cobb County voters to deal with. It is not an issue for the State Legislature.

Back off M. Dollar and the rest of you. Let Cobb County voters take care of the problems they (we) are supposed to take care of.

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