School board members clash on strategic plan goals
by Jon Gillooly
jgillooly@mdjonline.com
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MARIETTA - Cobb school board members David Morgan and Alison Bartlett urged their colleagues Wednesday to increase the rigor of the board's draft strategic plan.

But they were met with resistance by some board members.

In January, the board directed staff to design a strategic plan that measures academic progress, Associate Superintendent Dr. Steve Constantino said. The board adopted the framework of that plan in June and asked staff to fill in proposed targets.

A vote to make the plan official is scheduled for Dec. 10.

Wednesday's meeting was the first time the board discussed the targets in public. Board Vice Chairwoman Lynnda Crowder-Eagle asked why her colleagues had not sent her any revisions to the plan.

"I have not received any input from any of you at this point," said Crowder-Eagle, who was placed in charge of the plan by board Chairman Dr. John Abraham.

Morgan and Bartlett took issue with some of the targets staff inserted in the plan, saying they could be more challenging. Morgan said he thinks staff just dropped in numbers after looking at trends.

"I think a problem with that is, when you're looking at schools that have low trends, then you're going to put in a low number, which goes back to our point that you don't have a high expectation," Morgan said. "You can't necessarily look at trends and say, 'This year we're two, next year we're four, next year we'll be six, if that's underperforming. You have to say, 'No, this year we're going to be 25.'"

Crowder-Eagle criticized the strategic plan for having too much summative data, that is, data used to determine a final outcome, such as a course grade, as opposed to formative data, such as a teacher helping a student on the material to get that end of course grade.

Educator Robert Stakes explained the two terms when he said, "When the cook tastes the soup, that's formative; when the guests taste the soup, that's summative."

Abraham asked Crowder-Eagle to give him an example of a formative benchmark that could be measured, but Crowder-Eagle said she couldn't.

Crowder-Eagle asked what the outcome be if the board were to set a target to advance on a test from 70 to 80 percent.

"How about if we don't meet those targets. What then? Are we just going to turn those teachers over and get us a brand new bunch?" she asked.

Morgan said if the goal wasn't reached, then the board must look to Superintendent Fred Sanderson and his administration to explain why.

"But we will clearly see either we exceeded it, we met it or we're under it," he said. "I think we have to be able to have higher expectations, and hopefully that will be accomplished."

Morgan said he would like to see the composite scores on the Iowa Test of Basic Standards rise 30 percent.

"I don't think it's unrealistic to say four out of every five fifth grader meets the average, just the national average in those content areas," he said. "And if we see that we're not, then we see where we need to do work. But the only way that's going to happen is if we have true accountability."

Morgan said only 7 percent of black students exceeded expectations on the end-of-course math test.

"Well, that's the same number as students with disabilities. There's something wrong with that. That has to be a number that's raised," he said.

He quoted the late Dr. Benjamin Mayes, "Not failure, but low aim is a sin."

Both Crowder-Eagle and board member Holli Cash questioned raising the bar so ambitiously.

"So do you not put any credence in trend data? You think that's a waste?" Crowder-Eagle asked Morgan.

Cash added, "I don't want to get hung up on numbers."

Cash sneered when Bartlett said she didn't understand why staff didn't set ITBS targets higher to be competitive on the world market.

"Yes, I'm pretty sure that the world market is really concerned about how our students in first, third, fifth and seventh are doing," Cash said.

She said she found it "funny" that they were focusing on ITBS.

"You're acting like it's the be-all and end-all test," Cash said.

Cash also recently dismissed the importance of the SAT when asked about McEachern High School's plunging scores.

"We've got SAT scores that you like to drive home, which is really just basically a certain group, a small group of students," Cash said at the time. "It doesn't represent the whole district ... SAT isn't the highest standard any more."

Board member David Banks, meantime, warned of the risks of comparing one class over the next year's class, as they are not the same students and do not have the same resources. Banks was echoing a point Sanderson made earlier when he said he took SAT scores with a grain of salt for that very reason.

Even Constantino said a good school system is one that measures itself on not one or two factors, but many.

Morgan said they were trying to have it both ways. He asked why the board and administration showered praise upon a school awarded for its superior testing performance, but when a school performed poorly on a test, that test was downplayed in significance.

"We can't have amnesia when test scores don't say what we want them to say," Morgan said. "If we have poor test scores, it's to be spotlighted. How do we fix it? We can't use the argument that test scores don't matter. One of the key variables to an excellent teacher is having high expectations, and I think the same thing will happen if we have a strategic plan that's full of high expectations. I think people will rise to the occasion, they'll get out of their comfort zone and we'll be a much better county."

The strategic plan may be viewed on the district's Web site at www.cobbk12.org. Links to board members are provided for residents who wish to give opinions on the draft.
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Change at any cost?
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November 18, 2009
This is Sad, I have to disagree with you on your views over change. Part of this board's ineffectual record (new calendar, new report cards, laptops) has to do with its infatuation with trying to change for change's sake. Oftentimes, that's change we can do without in Cobb.
Just Passing Through
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November 13, 2009
The reason for the emphasis on ITBS and SAT scores is because people understand what the scores mean. The assessments are also widely used across the nation so you can compare apples to apples. You can't readily compare scores from the CRCT (GA) to the FCAT (FL). I also think Cobb needs to go back to the traditional report cards for K-3. The 1-2-3 grading system is STUPID. Who gives a rip about an arbitrary standard? Our students need to know how to read, write, calculate, compute and think. Kindergarteners chanting the standards in a classroom like mindless drones is NOT learning.
Helen B.
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November 13, 2009
Holli Cash is in the pockets of business people and real estate tycoons. She is one her self. She is doing a lowsy job on the board and it is time for her and others to go. Minority students and students with disabilities are doing horrible under her leadership. She needs to be replaced with a person of color or a person with exceptionality who could better this population better. What happen to the statistical data and the agenda. The meeting was all over the place with opinions. I want hard cold facts!!!!!!

IOWA FAN
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November 13, 2009
Congratulations once again to Bartlett and Morgan for demanding answers to tough questions. Isn't that what boards are supposed to do? Ms. Cash, FYI, the IOWA test is the only true standardized test our students take that measure their aptitude against their peers NATIONALLY. Most of us get this; why don't you? It is much harder to hide the decline with the IOWA data, isn't it?
This is sad
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November 13, 2009
I can't believe that I am actually seeing all of these comments about "demographics". Are you trying to say that an increase in minorities and low income families will harm Cobb? Why do you people only see the world in BLACK and WHITE? It is so much more than that! Perhaps if you all worked more to support these individuals rather than trying to forecast and predict the future of the county based upon "demogaphics", perhaps this school system would do a lot better. You all focus so much on the "affluence" that you have become blinded by the REAL issues. Change is coming people. This county has been set in its racist and prejudice ways for too long. Change is coming to Cobb... Do yourselves a favor and roll with it. If you fight it, you're surely bound to lose.
Chuck H.
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November 13, 2009
First I'd like to thank Jon for his reporting on the Cobb County School System. It's an example of great journalism and has been very effective in bringing to light things that needed addressing.

I noticed in your article that Linda Crowder-Eagle asked what would be done in the targets in the strategic plan were not reached - "turn those teachers over and get us brand-new bunch?" In my business experience strategic plans serve a very valuable function in large organizations. They provide specific goals on which those who are accountable are measured and there are consequenses if the goals are not meant. In the Cobb plan the Superintendent would be the one accountable. It's good that the board asked him for his recommended goals. Now the board needs to adjust the recommended goals to those that they feel would result in real improvement in the education of the students. This is the real bottom line. It the Superintent knows he is being measured on goals focused on improving the education of the students, it should motivate him to make changes that will insure that the goals are met. So actually it would be the Superintendent that would be changed if the goals were not met and not the teachers.
Demographics
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November 13, 2009
Yeah I do realize that East Cobb was built out a long, long time ago, but the aging of the population has not yet impacted enrollment nearly as much as it is about to over the next decade. That fact is national in scope. The Cobb School District also benefited from the spread of affluence to other parts of West Cobb and North Cobb over the past 20 years, but home construction in those areas is down 96% and it isn't coming back.

Turnover of high-end neighborhoods requires young buyers with high incomes and willing sellers with the means to move on. It will be a decade at least before those conditions return. The past is irrelevant--the future is not going to be favorable to the District and its leadership is ill prepared to deal with that reality. Get used to it.
Jasper Willingham
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November 13, 2009
Mr. Morgan,

Goals need to be meaningful, measurable and attainable. Where are your ideas? I do agree to shoot high because any good goal allows you to drop back and re-evaluate after a period of time and adjust the goal as you go. It should not be so easy that complacency comes into play, but it should not be so tough no one can ever achieve it. So with thqat being said Mr. Morgan, let's hear what your ideas are and how and when will we measure them??
Reality Check
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November 13, 2009
Demographics, you do realize that East Cobb was built out a LONG LONG time ago, right? The school populations have remained more or less stable and in a few areas (i.e. Walton school district) have actually grown as young parents with children make do with older houses in order to get their children in the schools.

More on topic - the board's goals are anemic and if we have schools scoring above 1700 on the SAT, we should as a district be able to have at least an average above 1548. No excuses.
Alan F.
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November 13, 2009
What planet is Holli Cash from? Everytime she speaks, the collective IQ of this planet drops.
Demographics
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November 13, 2009
The Cobb School Board has realized that demographics won't be in the District's favor in the future. The affluent parts of the County are built out and aging toward empty-nester hood. High end homebuilding has ceased indefinitely and the only enrollment growth in the future will be among lower income populations who place little value on education. Face facts guys. Cobb's few high-performing, affluent schools will no longer be able to mask the failures of the majority. This district is even less equipped to deal with the coming demographic shifts than DeKalb and Gwinnett were. A goal of perpetual mediocrity is probably too optimistic.
Lucy W
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November 13, 2009
Why do you allow Sanderson et al to make the straegic plan yet the board doesn't want him to weigh in on the calendar?

sounds like this is all a show - but the citizens are awake and not enjoying the show! they see all the smoke and mirrors.

julie brown
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November 13, 2009
If my employees could set their goals, they would be happy leaving things at status quo too. But that is not how you make a successful company.

Reach for the stars, you might just get there.
sammie pike
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November 13, 2009
I like David Morgan's points - if the teacher sets high expectations, the students usually achieve them. This plan needs to have high expectations otherwise we will never meet them.

Debating on type of data is ridiculous. How the country - for transplants to Cobb county and how the colleges - for degrees Ms. Cash - is what we need to concentrate on. If that means test scores, then it is test scores. The other items should be how we make the test scores better. If that means science labs in every school, longer hours, more interactive learning, whatever it means, then you have to set goals that we help us attain the ultimate goal.

Sounds to me like the board cannot even agree on what the ultimate goal is. that is a good place to start.

frustrated at it all
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November 13, 2009
I agree with Time to Go. My rep completely flipped on campaign issues then had the nerve to tell me that he voted with what the "majority" of parents wanted. Hmmm, I guess the majority that voted him to his seat have been forgotten. Send them all packing and replace them with folks that have kids in the system now.
Time to Go
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November 13, 2009
Disappointed in our School Board for so many reasons. It's time to vote in an entirely new panel. These people are not doing the job. :(
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