Parents vent anger; east Cobb woman escorted from podium by police officer
by Katy Ruth Camp
krcamp@mdjonline.com
November 12, 2009 01:00 AM | 5062 views | 35 35 comments | 15 15 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Interviews at CCSD Board Meeting
Interviews at CCSD Board Meeting
Cobb Board public comment on calendar
Cobb Board public comment on calendar
Cobb Board 4 to 3 for balanced calendar
Cobb Board 4 to 3 for balanced calendar
An anti-school board poster from Wednesday s meeting.
view slideshow (4 images)
MARIETTA - The parents are not pleased. At least not the ones who attended the Cobb School Board meeting Wednesday morning, when the board considered the contentious issue of school calendars.

The board ultimately approved, 4-3, calendars that start school for the next three years on the first Monday in August, grant week-long breaks in September, November, February and April, and ends school the Friday before Memorial Day. Members Alison Bartlett, David Morgan and Dr. John Crooks voted against the calendar.

Walton mom Vivian Jackson, a founder of the Cobb-based group Georgians Need Summers, which advocates for a later start date, was only a few seconds into her public comment when board chairman Dr. John Abraham called for security.

Jackson was stating that Abraham had campaigned for office on a platform that included later school start dates. She continued to speak in a calm, but determined voice as she read from her speech, undeterred by board attorney Glenn Brock's attempts to interrupt her. The security officer approached her, standing behind her as she finished speaking.

"I guess, in the end, you will have to look at yourselves and say, 'I was willing to lie. I was willing to take precious resources from you. Why? Because I bow to the whims of a superintendent who does not bat an eye at spending endless amounts of money on every snake-oil salesman, expensive toy or latest educational fad in order to hide the fact that under his tenure," Jackson said, before being interrupted by Abraham.

"Officer! That's enough. That's enough," Abraham said, as board member Holli Cash said to "turn it off." The officer then approached Jackson, who took her glasses off, placed both hands on the podium and looked around at the board members in disbelief.

"Should we refer to you now as your royal highnesses?" Jackson said before bowing to the board members and walking alongside the police officer to the back of the room among cheers and claps from the crowd.

After the incident, Jackson said she was shaken up by the ordeal.

"I am a mother and a wife and was treated today as a common criminal, for doing nothing more than invoking my right as a US citizen to free speech," she said. "I made no motion whatsoever towards the board and never came from behind the podium. There was also nothing in the speech that was not repeated time and again by other speakers. Although I am very shaken, I will not be intimidated by Dr. Abraham and will be looking into my legal options, because if Dr. Abraham and this school board are allowed to violate a citizen's right to free speech, then it would open the door for other school boards or politicians to do the same."

Kathy Asher, who has three children in the school district - and is a district employee - also spoke to the board in opposition of the "balanced calendar." She first expressed hope that she could speak freely.

"This is a decision that is being made for us without account of why they're doing this," Asher said later.

During a break, Acworth parent Scotti Madison - who founded Georgians Need Summers and led the fight against former Superintendent Joe Redden in his push toward a balanced calendar, which Madison saw as a stepping stone to year round schools - said he was irked that Abraham gave parents only one-and-a-half minutes to speak.

"When we first started this process under Mr. Joe Redden they gave everybody five minutes, and now it's only a minute and a half today, so it's kind of hard to get any information across in a minute and a half," he said.

Not that he thinks 10 minutes would have made any difference though.

A source close to the situation said Cash, Lynnda Crowder-Eagle, David Banks and Abraham, had already obtained their needed majority vote for the balanced calendar prior to the meeting, despite the fact that the Attorney General Office's has instructed the board not to poll board members before a vote occurs. Cash and Crowder-Eagle deny the accusation.

Madison said, "I think what happens a lot of times in this situation is you become callous when you've crossed Glover Street...I think people campaigned with good intentions, but once they cross Glover Street something happens and they realize deals have to be made, and they realize no matter what the parents say or their wishes are, it's almost like they quit listening to them and then start listening to the academicians that run the county."

Madison, an insurance agent, was the first to address the board.

"The decision-making process for this board and school officials reminds me sometimes of Saturday night wrestling - you already know the outcome before you ever come to us," he said.

"Some of you campaigned to keep a traditional calendar. What happened? Have you forgotten about that promise to your constituents?"

Madison said later, "Studies after studies have shown that when you have these kids who stay at home because their parents can't afford the additional childcare during these breaks, there's more teenage pregnancy, there's more gang violence, and there's a host of problems."

He said the board was trying to follow the money in supporting the calendar.

"If they have more kids pass with No Child Left Behind, there's more money that goes into the school system. I admire they're trying to find a way to improve the test scores, but this is not the way to do it. And if it is, just provide the evidence to us," Madison said.

The school district conducted a computer survey of teachers and staff from Oct. 19 to Oct. 30, garnering 8,400 responses, with 4,315 or 51.1 percent in favor of the balanced calendar, according to district spokesman Jay Dillon.

But the overwhelming impressions parents had were that there was no attempt to communicate with parents, that not enough information was given or researched to make a decision, and that the balanced calendar would harm instead of help Cobb's students.

Lisa Stone of Marietta, who has two children in the school system and one who recently graduated from Walton High School, said she opposed the calendar because no research has been done to show the benefits of a more year-round school year than the traditional school calendar that has been in place.

"All I want to know is, what is the evidence for the calendars you have proposed? If you can show me that what you're proposing can benefit the children, then I may be in support of it! I can't be in support of something that doesn't show me why it's a benefit. To date, I have not seen one shred of evidence - financial, academic or otherwise - that shows me that I should be in favor of what you're proposing," Stone said.

Kell High School mom Kathleen Angelucci held signs throughout the meeting showing her opposition. Like Jackson, she also worked on Abraham's 2006 campaign for the school board.

"During and before the campaigns, many of you were quick to condemn the former board and superintendent. How ironic it is that you now almost mirror them," Angelucci said. "My intent today was to share research and data that I have in regards to year-round school and its implications. Then I realized, it really won't matter. I'm very certain this is a done deal."

After the votes were cast and the calendar was approved, Angelucci said she was shocked not by the decision, but by the actions of the board. "I cannot tell you how astounded I was by the behavior I witnessed here today. In this instance, the decision for the balanced calendar was not a strategic choice for the well-being of the district," Angelucci said. "All school board decisions require analysis, the balancing of needs and concerns, and the ability to see the long-term implications of an action. There was nothing offered except subjective, personal opinions. I am at a loss as to what has happened to them as individuals and as a collective group."

- MDJ reporter Jon Gillooly contributed to this report
Comments
(35)
Comments-icon Post a Comment
June9thmeet
|
June 07, 2010
Say NO to closing cobb county schools!

Keep Oakwood High School open.

Last Chance to Speak before Budget is finalized!

6/9 CCSD Board Meeting: Wednesday

Public Comments - 7:30 AM

Board Meeting-comments - 9:00 AM

514 Glover St. Marietta, Ga. 30080

(Legal Adoption of the FY2011 Budget at Regular Board Meeting)
docman52
|
November 30, 2009
I live in East Cobb, and I DO NOT support the so-called 'balanced calendar.' I think it is just another blatant attempt to turn this country into a socialize nation. The left-wing 'academics' are so jealous of the socialist, European countries that they will do anything to get their way.
adjustplease
|
November 21, 2009
I love the new calendar!!

You can't tell me your kids don't get stir crazy between January and April with no breaks. I just think you guys need to stop being sticks in the mud and give the next three years a try.

My niece in FL has been on a year round calendar for years. Everyone loves it. The day care adjusted, no summer learning loss, seasonal breaks for travel and rest - in the end it is a win all. You guys just need to adjust and give it a shot.

Another point - think about our August. It's hot with a usual smog warning. They'll be in school during this time and able to play during a more mild weather time during the school year.

Win - win please open your eyes and see it.
WillieC
|
November 17, 2009
What will parents do when there is year around school with breaks between? They will do like the parents that opposed compulsory education-ADAPT or get left behind. Most of the developed nations have more school days than us and it shows.
Cobb Teacher
|
November 16, 2009
Just a thought (or two)...

1. To those of you who complain that YOU also work 40 hours weeks... whoop-dee-doo. I work 50-60 hour weeks. And no, I'm not paid for the extra time.

2. The board actually kept a promise to the teachers they will most likely furlough next semester: THEY LISTENED TO US. WE VOTED FOR THE CALENDAR.

3. I am truly sorry you won't have a free babysitter for an extra two weeks in August. Here's a suggestion: BE A PARENT. Go to the park. Read to your kids.

4. The extra daycare argument doesn't work. The two weeks you'll pay for in September and February will be made up in August, remember???
Whatstress?
|
November 15, 2009
This all boils down to one issue: Only three members of the school board are willing to set aside their personal opionions (and "curiosity")and consider what their constituents have stated as concerns. This board owed it to us come up with a plan to address the concerns and not summarily dismiss them. That's what they were elected to do. Anyone can sit on a panel and just vote based on their opinion, informed or otherwise. What do we need these clowns for? As for the teachers who think we parents have it easier in the world that you seem to not know too much about (you actually think we don't get paycuts, don't get tons of work thrown at us by our bosses, don't work on our vacations, don't bring work home and stay up at night doing it, aren't getting our benefits reduced...): I can't trust that you are preparing my child for the real world if you're that clueless about what is going on in America right now. Not only am I as stressed out as you are, I also have to re-teach my kid at night because your idea of teaching is exposing kids to what is going to be on some standardized test or AP exam, and hoping they figure out the rest.
Another Cobb Mom
|
November 14, 2009
What is the difference between paying for child care for two extra weeks in the summer as opposed to a week in September and a week in February? Kids are in school the same number of weeks and out the same number of weeks. I personally would rather focus on the quality of what is taught in the classroom instead of harping on when it is taught.
workingparent
|
November 13, 2009
I support the new calendar, if you check the balanced school is working just fine in our neighbor states. I have family that actually prefer this calendar and select it over the standard school calendars when given the option and these school systems are ranked much higher than ours. Bottom line is it is hard for some to adjust to change. Also, I don't buy into this need more summer argument, it is nice to vacation in the fall and winter as well.
CCSD Teacher
|
November 13, 2009
Mark my words...Cathy Asher is now on the clock with CCSD. Within the next few months they will place her on a PDP and then they will transfer her to another school at the end of the year. They will then find further "issues" with her teaching and then they will tell her that she can either resign or she will be let go. Then she will join the ranks of those other teachers who have spoken out against the CCSD and its leadership (Fred, Steve Constantino, Principals, etc.). Just like with the calendar issue, you think you will have input but you will not, you think you will have a say and be able to save yourself, but you will not. They are more and more just like the mafia, they have their ways of making people "go away" and they can do it without anyone being able to stop it. Cathy, if I were you, I would join the union NOW, I would make sure I have all of my past observations in order and I would talk to a lawyer. I would get out now and go teach in another county before they make you "go away".
East Cobb mom of 5
|
November 13, 2009
I live in East Cobb and support the balanced calendar - this small group of angry "need more summer" people do not represent me.
papa smurf
|
November 13, 2009
Most of these comments don't make sense because these people are too emotional - not giving facts. Which I find funny since that is exactly what they are accusing the board of not supporting.

I don't believe the child care issue the number of days the kids are in school did not decrease, the additional cost for electricity not significantly more.

to some nerve
|
November 13, 2009
to some nerve

If that is the type of ranting you gave the board vivian - just name calling, no wonder you were pulled from the podium. Ranting and name calling are not required.

do I like the balanced calendar - yes

do I like the board that passed it - no

We don't have to make it personal, we just disagree on this one.
anonymous
|
November 13, 2009
The purpose of schools being out all summer is obsolete today. I doubt many Cobb county parents need their children to work the farm all summer. There should be year-round school. And, yes, the daycares will adapt to the change.
SouthernGal
|
November 13, 2009
Why not shorten summer break to 5 weeks...a week a Thanksgiving, and Easter, 2 weeks at Christmas and a week between semesters/quarters?
working mom
|
November 12, 2009
Teachers need a break in September? Try working in the real world where 2 weeks vacation has to be enough for summer fun and sick days. The real working world does not have breaks to make up for benefit and pay cuts. I work 40 hours a week with no perks like week long breaks and summers off. Wake up teachers, why should it be different for you.
SomeNerve
|
November 12, 2009
Dear "Feeling Justified"...

Who do you think you are telling me how much summer time is enough for me??? How dare you!

It's obvious that you would agree with the board's decisions with an arrogant attitude like that. One more thing, who gives a rat's behind that you think you need a break to get a morale boost and that will somehow translate into improving our kids' education? If you can't take the heat, go get a new job. I hear McDonald's is hiring.
Are you sure?
|
November 12, 2009
I want to hear the teachers' reaction when their pay is cut again to cover the added operating costs of air conditioning the schools in early August.
Give Me a Break ...
|
November 12, 2009
Can we all agree that the parents were nothing but rude, completely lacking common manners and civility?

Also, the free market will provide affordable child care in September & February just as it does any other week in the year.

Finally, the ballot box is the place to deal with this not shouting down elected officials performing their elected duties. Since when is it valid protest to boo and catcall at these meetings. Try that in most other elected officials meetings and you won't just get thrown out, you will likely be arrested!

There is not free speech at these meetings. They have NO OBLIGATION to even have a public comment section under GA Law. Come on folks, get over it and do something about this summer and next fall at the ballot box. In the mean time, sit down, shut up and be a respectful example to your precious children!! The teachers will thank you for it and you just might have a chance at being heard instead of ridiculed!

feeling justified
|
November 12, 2009
As a teacher with the CCSD it is gratifying to know that WE are being heard. After a 2% pay cut, no budget for supplies (that we now have to buy out of our own pocket), a weakened retirement system and the possibility of having our post-planning furloughed, it's nice that we finally get something we want. It will be a boost for teacher/administrator morale and productivity to have a short break while still working toward the ultimate goal - student achievement. We still have 8 weeks of summer and that is more than enough time for children and families to bond, relax and enjoy the lack of school-based commitments. And yes, I have children enrolled in the Cobb school system, also. I'm not only a teacher, I'm a mom, too.
You don't make sense
|
November 12, 2009
Several of your comments don't make sense...if the number of days that kids are in school are the same, what does it matter if you are paying for childcare in June or in September? It's not like they are going to have all this extra time off, the number of days are the same. That's what I don't get about the parents trying to "get back our summers", you sound ridiculous because they still have the SAME numbers of days off, just later in the summer. And for the parents that are upset about having to find childcare, since when did schools become babysitters?
*All comments are subject to moderator approval before being made visible on the website. The use of profanity, obscene and vulgar language, hate speech, and racial slurs is strictly prohibited. Advertisements, promotions, spam, and links to outside websites will be rejected.