Apologize for slavery? Why not to Indians, too?
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DEAR EDITOR:

Given all of the problems we face right here and now, it seems nothing short of ridiculous that anyone in our state Legislature would think it relevant to waste the time to pass a resolution showing remorse for slavery. I would give odds in a bet that most, if not all, of the pastors who requested such a resolution are of African descent. They are doing nothing more than trying to build the groundwork for a future demand of restitution for something that happened to their ancestors 150 years ago. All that the resolution sponsor (state Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Cassville) is attempting to do is to lock up the African-American vote to ensure his re-election for as far as the eye can see.

My ancestors were not even living in this country when slavery was in practice here. They were busy living as slaves to unforgiving royalty in Europe. They chose to leave to find a better way of life. So why should I apologize for what someone else’s ancestors did to the Africans in America? Maybe those who still feel put upon for what happened to their ancestors should follow the advice of one of their own, Bill Cosby, to shut up, grow up and go look for work.

If we feel it imperative to show remorse to anyone in our history, why don’t we show remorse to the American Indians for destroying their society, killing their ancestors, stealing their lands and forcing them to live on reservations forever? Why don’t we apologize to Mexico for stealing Texas and California from them by force and claiming them for our own purposes?

I am sick and tired of listening to the whining of current-day African Americans about what happened to their ancestors 150 years ago. I’m just as sick and tired of even hearing the word “racist” whenever an African American doesn’t get his way or even preferential treatment. I have worked for the betterment of African American children in education for most of my life. By and large, I lost. I think they would be way ahead of the game if they would just grow up, shut up and look for work.

Jim Stoll

Kennesaw
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Nathan B. Forrest
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January 23, 2013
To Funny, leave Klansmen May-retta and Farmer alone.
MAY-RETTA SURVIVOR
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January 24, 2013
@Nathan B. Forrest: Obviously, you're just dumb enough to think that your ridiculous "klansman" assessment of me matters.
1%
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January 23, 2013
This is for "Too funny" who, in hindsight, is just that. You've cut a rather large "pc" swath here calling people names...people, I suspect, who only want to voice, and are entitled to, their opinion and, by all accounts, know more about this subject than you.

The FACT is, that if african's still want anyone to apologize for their past, present and future condition they need look no further than to their own black people in africa who, as history has proven, were the first to sell their own people into slavery in the first place. You do read history books, don't you?

My suggestion for you is to quit the name calling and trite and banal name-calling and limit your comments to an opinion of the subject at hand...rather than to other opinion posters. Should you learn to do this, you just might be taken seriously at some point...although I truly doubt it.
Too funny
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January 24, 2013
Haha! Calling someone a racist, who is actually a racist, is not name calling.

You people just don't get it. Slavery was LEGAL in the United States. It was LEGAL to own other human beings as property. Can you not comprehend what that means?

Jim's crying about fighting in wars or his family being figurative slaves to the harsh economy are not relevant when we are talking about actual, real, legal, institutional, literal, slavery.

Why are you people so obtuse?
MAY-RETTA SURVIVOR
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January 24, 2013
@too funny: Are you aware of what year this is? No wonder you can't seem to go forward...as you are far-too-busy looking backward. Is your life truly that shallow that you concern yourself with something that none of us who are living had anything to do with?
1%
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January 25, 2013
@too funny: Don't look now, but you are slightly out numbered here. I suggest that you take yourself and your opinions to the nearest naacp meeting...maybe they will care.
MAY-RETTA SURVIVOR
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January 22, 2013
Just wondering when african americans will apologize to the rest of us for wasting our money sending them to schools...given the fact that they STILL can't get jobs or speak English in a complete sentence.
Too funny
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January 23, 2013
look kids, it's a real live racist. While an endangered species, every once one of these creatures will crawl out from under their rock and bring the collective good of humanity back down a notch or two.
MAY-RETTA SURVIVOR
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January 23, 2013
@"Too funny": Look kids, someone who's not afraid to call it like it is. Frankly speaking, I'm not the only one out there who's sick and tired of supporting a race of people who, in essence, are nothing more than unwanted step children...and who are too lazy to help themselves!
West Cobb Farmer
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January 23, 2013
Re: Too funny

Look this way folks. This is the American buffoon. He's been neutered of his manhood and lobotomized of his ability to think and reason. He's now completely harmless and will respond to any of my commands. There was a time when this species was bold, brave, independent and fearless but as you now observe he's as gentle as kitten and as obedient as a cocker spaniel.
Too funny
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January 23, 2013
So calling a racist a racist makes one a buffoon eh Farmer? mmmk. And well done with the whole "manhood" thing - I'm sure that's good for some guffaws down at the white sheet boys club. Pathetic.
West Cobb Farmer
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January 23, 2013
@ Too funny - Calling someone a racist is characteristic behavior of the American Progressive Buffoon. This behavior results from operant behavioral and social modification that strips away the behaviors of freedom and independence and replaces those behaviors with new group think behaviors, beliefs, and tribal mantras. For the American Progressive Buffoon calling people racists is a tribal mantra that is highly valued by the Group. It is 'Group Speak' and for the speaker it solicits much praise from the Group. However research is now revealing that the racist mantra is really a subliminal cry of hate focused at those who still have their freedom and independence.
maylib
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January 22, 2013
I agree with Jim. Just like we did for Indians and Mexico, we should officially recognize the loss and either sign some form of treaty or assign land and/or special financial status to all african americans.

That's what you meant, right Jim?
Too funny
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January 22, 2013
Jim, I say yes to your headline - but your article is dripping with racist undertones. Good people with good hearts should have no problem apologizing for past atrocities, including the slavery of black Africans, the ethnic cleansing of native North Americans, the subjugation and disenfranchisement of women, the discrimination and segregation of black Americans, and now the ongoing discrimination of gay Americans. You may want to check your moral compass.
Jim Stoll
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January 22, 2013
Too Funny: There is nothing wrong with my moral compass. I hold no ill will toward anyone. I just wonder how many times I have to say I'm sorry. Must I say "I'm sorry" to all of these groups each morning when I say my morning prayers to God? I had no part in subjugating anyone. Neither did my parents. We just fought each day to keep ourselves alive. My parents slaved their lives away as a sharecrop farmer. They came into this world with nothing and they left it with nothing. My two brothers and I spent a total of 12 years of our lives fighting wars that someone else caused to happen. When is someone going to apologize to my parents. When is someone going to apologize to their children. When is enough going to be enough? I'm tired of listening to everyone cry.
Too funny
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January 22, 2013
Jim, I'm younger than you but I too come from a long history of poor southern sharecroppers. You're missing the point. This is not about you or me and our respective family's misfortunes.

The groups I mentioned have been deprived of their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness by our very own government, and there is no statute of limitations that prohibits governments from accepting responsibility for past atrocities.
Jim Stoll
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January 23, 2013
What point am I missing. My parents were also deprived of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness by their own government. First it was The Great Depression, then it was WWII, which took their oldest son from them for four years, then it was the Korean Conflict, which took their other two sons from them for four more years, leaving my father looking up the rear end of two mules pulling a sulky plow to grow enough the eat for the rest of his family along. There was no welfare then. It was either survive or die. My parents were slaves to the whims of whatever it was that their government wanted to do to them. I know everything there is to know about slavery. I lived it. I am still living it because my government hasn't changed their practices one iota since the day I was born. The America its forefathers created has expired. It is bankrupting itself spending One Trillion Dollars per year to provide free food and shelter for those who were once called slaves so they can live well without work. So when are they going to apologize to those of us whose ancestors were not even around when their ancestors were called slaves.
Kevin Foley
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January 22, 2013
Nice racist rant.

GET LOST, Mr. Stoll.
We are now slaves
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January 22, 2013
Who will apologize to the workers, contributors, taxpayers for exploitation by taking and giving to the non-workers, non-contributors and non-taxpayers?

Exactly what is a slave? Someone who produces work and effort and receives no compensation.
Betsey Ross
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January 22, 2013
Go read about the Pigford case. The U.S. has paid restitution to thousands of black farmers for perceived past slights (and is still paying) with barely any proof they were slighted. In fact, way more people than black farmers listed on the census have claimed their financial prize. Yet no one has the guts to stand and tell the truth about the program. And then there are the Obamaphones.
I so agree
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January 22, 2013
I agree with this letter-writer. The problem is, the African American community has a hobby horse, it is victimization and they will ride it until it is exhausted. It reminds a lot of us of spoiled brats.
West Cobb Farmer
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January 22, 2013
Amen!
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