City looks to ban minors at bar ‘foam parties’
by Jon Gillooly
July 26, 2012 01:06 AM | 4014 views | 10 10 comments | 7 7 recommendations | email to a friend | print
MARIETTA — The Marietta Police Department on Wednesday asked the City Council to ban anyone younger than 21 from the city’s bars and lounges to cut down on “foam parties.”

Marietta Police said certain bar owners in the city lease their floor space to club promoters for the evening, who then host a foam party there. The establishment is filled with waist-deep foam, which the attendees dance in. Trouble is, minors as young as 13 show up and mix with the adults, often ending up drunk and engaging in sexual activity.

Lt. Steve Kish and Maj. Cliff Kelker gave council members a flier from the El Texano Nightclub on Franklin Road near Delk Road. The flier advertises a foam party for this Friday. It shows a woman decked out in a bikini dancing in foam. The flier also advertises that no IDs are required, that the dress code is “booty shorts, bikinis and beach clothes,” and that there will be a $100 “booty shaking contest” at the event.

Police say the minors learn about the foam parties through such social media outlets as Facebook.

The officers said that after the foam parties close for the night, the minors will congregate outside the bar, sometimes in the hundreds, which attracts gang recruiters and leads to gang violence.

Police say one offender is Runaround Sue’s, located on Church Street Extension just off Cobb Parkway near the Canton Road Connector. Several arrests were made there after two rival gangs shot at each other, Kish said.

Kish said cities such as Savannah and Columbus have already passed ordinances banning minors from bars.

Councilman Philip Goldstein said it was one thing to ban 13- to 17-year-olds from bars. But Goldstein objected to banning 18-, 19- and 20-year-olds.

“That goes too far,” he said.

Mayor Steve Tumlin said he didn’t see a distinction between 13- to 17-year-olds and 18- to 20-year-olds in the context of the conversation they were having because Georgia law prohibits anyone younger than 21 from drinking alcohol.

“They are minors as far as alcohol,” Tumlin said.

But Goldstein said the 18- to 20-year-old set may want to be in the bar to dance and therefore shouldn’t be prevented from doing so.

“They can’t drink but they can dance,” he said.

Goldstein said there were bars and lounges in the city that didn’t host foam parties, and adopting an ordinance banning anyone younger than 21 from attending those places would penalize them.

“You’re painting everyone with the same brush,” Goldstein said. “Don’t adversely impact legitimate businesses.”

Moreover, Goldstein said state law allows people younger than 21 to work in bars. He urged his fellow council members to continue to allow minors to work in bars regardless of what changes they made to the ordinance.

Tumlin said state law may allow minors to work in bars, but that doesn’t mean the city has to allow it, a statement city attorney Doug Haynie said was correct.

Councilman Anthony Coleman, who had requested the subject be placed on the council’s Judicial/Legislative Committee agenda for discussion, said he sided with police in wanting to ban anyone under 21 from bars.

In the end, Goldstein and Jim King, the only two members currently on the committee, advanced the agenda item on to the council’s Aug. 6 work session, asking that the proposed ordinance is written so as to ban minors under 18 from Marietta bars, but that it continues to allow minors in bars if they are working there and if they are older than 17.
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Foamalicious
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July 27, 2012
Banning foam parties for kids... I get wow! Who voted these idiots in office?????

Parents do you jobs and everyone stop trying to be so damn controlling. What kind of country do we live in? Old Russia??

Dont let some bad apples ruin it for the rest of us.

love and happiness people!

Stop the Hate!
wee wee
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July 27, 2012
I knew people who use to pee in foam parties.. you can't see them doing it and it is funny people have know clue.. watch out.
VFP42
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July 26, 2012
This is only a problem because we have a minimum drinking age of 21. Somehow the rest of the world does not explode in flames without one. Why do we willfully create problems for ourselves here?
anonymous
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July 26, 2012
I thought it was illegal for anyone under 21 to even set foot in a bar or lounge whether drinking or not.
anonymous 23
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July 26, 2012
even though people are at the age of teaching respect we still did these things when we were younger..... even though this is 2012 things are done a lot differently and yes they are done at an earlier age.... when i was 4 my dad made me taste a beer because it was funny to him.... i lost my virginity to a girl when i was 13 and been having sex every since... when its all said and done LOOK AT YOURSELF WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER... its a foam party so what... whats the difference of a little girl walking around with their faces packed with make up and short shorts just to go to the movies... I mean really how many times did u and your girlfriend go on movie dates and kissed in the dark theater... lets stop trying to blame all of these things on clubs and start in the homes first... yes i grew up from all of these things but when i was younger i had structure in my home... i got whoopings and punishment... BUT WHEN I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF FREEDOM I TOOK ALL ADVANTAGE OF IT.... it all starts in the home... a kid locked in the house is only gonna make him rebel...
NorthCobbResident
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July 26, 2012
anonymous 23,

Before you justify this type of activity is okay by saying, "its a foam party so what" I'd like to know if you have been in the parking lot of Runaround Sue's on a Friday or Saturday night after one of these "foam parties" is over? My guess is you, just like City Councilman Philip Goldstein, have not. You are correct by saying "this is 2012 things are done a lot differently and yes they are done at an earlier age" which is just even more justification to clamp down on this type of activity. You cannot compare "go on movie dates and kissed int he dark theater" to oral sex between teenagers inside the bar or in the parking lot. Yes kids are going to be kids and they will experiment, but businesses don't have to hold events that condone this type of activity and if they do the local government needs to step in and stop it. Allowing this type of activity to continue is an accident waiting to happen and you know things are bad when police officers are told "if you get a call at this particular location don't go there by yourself, make sure you have backup." But I guess you will not be affected by the 14 year old girl who gets pregnant because she did something she should not have done in the parking lot of a business like this, or be affected by the 16 year old who was shot in the head and killed because he was standing in the parking lot of a business like this just talking to friends when the gunfire broke out between two gang bangers or will have to tell the spouse of a police officer your are sorry for not supporting the City Council in their stand to restrict who goes into businesses hosting events like this after the officer is shot and killed by an 18 year old upon arriving to a fight call at a business where a foam party just ended.

Yes, things are different than when we grew up because society has gotten so liberal in their beliefs that I never would have thought that I, as a parent, could be put in jail for whipping my son for doing the same things my Dad whipped me for doing when I was a young and stupid teenager. Another reason America is going down hill real fast.....
What the!?
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July 26, 2012
"Trouble is, minors as young as 13 show up and mix with the adults, often ending up drunk and engaging in sexual activity"

Anecdotal or factual? Nonetheless, I agree that individuals under 18 should not be allowed.

If any minor, regardless of age, is drinking under any circumstances (foam party or not) in a licensed establishment then there is a bigger issue with respect to enforcement.

Lax enforcement of current laws lets bar owners push the envelope.

Punish the establishments. There are laws on the books already that can address the issue of underage drinking. A liquor license is an expensive commodity which needs to always hang in the balance. Increase the incentive for establishment owners to keep that license intact and you've won the battle.

MAY-RETTA SURVIVOR
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July 26, 2012
Why can't we just "ban" minors altogether?
TamJo
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July 26, 2012
Thank you to the Police Department for recognizing that under 21 are minors, and that going to "bars" for these foam parties often encourages illegal behavior. It is time as adults we need to draw boundaries for teens. They have plenty of years ahead where they can attend these events.
Foam what?
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July 26, 2012
It is outrageous that the City Council, which should back the Marietta City Police, can't seem to gut up enough to agree to keep minors out of "foam parties". The Marietta City Police, which in my opinion does a better job than the City Council, should be supported in their difficult job.( Made more difficult by folks who should have more sense.)
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