Harrison delay may cost half a million
by Lindsay Field
lfield@mdjonline.com
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KENNESAW — The Cobb school board’s split vote that put off building a ninth-grade center at Harrison High School means the district could lose the nearly half a million dollars already spent on the project.

“They’ve wasted taxpayers’ money,” said Danny Jones, an architect who previously worked with BRPH Architects-Engineers Inc. of Vinings, the firm that designed the ninth-grade center. “They are double-dipping to pay the architect again to redesign.”

On Thursday night, the board voted first to separate the ninth-grade project from other maintenance and renovation work to be done at the school, then voted to proceed with only the maintenance and renovations. Both votes were 4-3, with Chairman Scott Sweeney, Lynnda Eagle and David Banks opposing.

Jones said separating the work, as the board did, would be close to impossible. Two parts of the renovation are for larger rooms, a choral room and a cafeteria, that were to be housed inside the ninth-grade center.

“You have to redesign the whole facility … you will have to start from square one,” Jones said. “Those design pieces (the choral room and cafeteria), if they were put back in the original building, the possibility of that hasn’t ever been done.”

In February 2011, the board authorized spending up to $686,700 with the BRPH firm for designing the entire project — renovations and ninth-grade center. The district has actually paid $460,000 for the design work, Deputy Superintendent Chris Ragsdale said.

The vote on the architectural work was also 4-3, but with board members Alison Bartlett, Kathleen Angelucci and Tim Stultz opposing.

Heather Ryan, a Harrison parent who spoke in favor of the ninth-grade center during the public comment portion of Thursday’s meeting, is furious with the board’s vote. If the Cobb delegation’s reapportionment map moves Alison Bartlett into Harrison’s area, Ryan plans to actively campaign against Bartlett’s re-election later this year, she said.

“She’s not taking care of our constituents, our area,” she said. “They have to build (the ninth-grade center). It’s in the SPLOST III notebook … there’s no place inside the school to make the other renovations.”

The cafeteria can’t be expanded in its current location because it is only 15 feet from the curb, she said. Also, if the choral-room renovations are done now and the ninth-grade center later, there would likely be so little ground left on campus that the ninth-grade center would have to built on top of the choral room.

“They weren’t taking those kinds of things into consideration,” Ryan said. “Most of them haven’t been out there to look at the school, I guarantee.”

Ragsdale said members of the district’s SPLOST staff tried to warn the board about how much it would cost to go back to the drawing board.

Larry Wall, the SPLOST construction director, told the board that the district would not be able to bid the ninth-grade center again for at least a year, and that doing so could end up costing more, though he did not say how much.

Ryan said she didn’t think the SPLOST staff members were vocal enough about the additional costs.

“I would have loved to have gotten back up there to bring up the concerns with dividing all these things up,” she said.

Sweeney, the board’s chairman, said that he too is concerned about the “substantial fees” the vote may cost the district, but that board members had ample time to consider the proposal.
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New Board Please
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March 30, 2012
This Board is past the point of no return. We need to elect an entire new Board this coming November. The current board has proven that it cannot get along and is prone to political payback... Our kids deserve better and our county deserves board members that it can trust.
Taxpayer and Parent
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March 28, 2012
They shouldn't have approved any of the renovations, much less the 9th grade center. So many other schools built years ago in Cobb County need upgrades just to serve the students they have. We should be spending money on them, not Harrison.
Harrison Parent
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April 10, 2012
Hey Taxpayer and Parent, have you been to Harrison lately? It too needs upgrades just to serve the students we have. I'm guessing you just assume that since we have incredible academic success, that we must have all the best in our facility. Guess again. What we have is amazing teachers and involved parents. The school itself is outdated, ugly, and extremely overcrowded.
More to it
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March 28, 2012
Let me start by saying, I am not a Harrison parent, but I have 2 younger students in Cobb schools.

Based on my knowledge of West Cobb and comments I have read from HHS parents, I believe there is much more to argument than a "9th grade center". Harrison is an old, outdated and overcrowded school. Yes, it's not as crowded as it used to be, but it is still several hundred students over capacity. The hallways are crowded and narrow, which prevents kids from using lockers, the cafeteria and choral room need expanding, there is a need for additional, larger class space. I'm sure the list goes on.

I see this project as Harrison High School expansion and renovation. Since it requires building an additional building, it makes the most sense to move the 9th grade into that building because they are the most isolated group of kids, in regards to what courses they take and the limited number of teachers that they interact with. The county could just as easily have made it a math and science building but is choosing to make it a 9th grade center because it is an easy line to draw and does have the added benefit of separating 14 year olds from 18 year olds. Face facts, What kids do at 18 is far different than what most do at 14. If we can limit a little bit the exposure of 14 year olds to 18 year olds, that is an added bonus.

The argument shouldn't be if Harrison needs a 9th grade center, but it should be if Harrison needs expansion and renovation.
question55
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March 28, 2012
Does the dropout rate at Harrison warrant the construction of a different building to house freshmen? You can separate a group without an entirely new building. What matters is engaging, relevant instruction and a connection with teachers...money is probably not the answer at Harrison. Instruction is a much more challenging issue to address than building a wing.The research on freshmen academies is to prevent freshmen bulge - the failure of large amounts of freshmen which leads to dropout. What percent of freshmen there are failing? Not sure the right questions are being asked...
I16
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March 28, 2012
Mr. Walrus; I bet you regrett leaving Texas?

But you are in a do nothing position.

What more could you ask for?

Scott Sweeney, Lynnda Eagle, Newt, Alison

Bartlett, Kathleen Angelucci and Tim Stultz there are no better team in the business.

BOLD SOLUTIONS AND BIG IDEAS

term limits
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March 28, 2012
It seems to me like some of the Board members need to go back and repeat 9th grade. TERM LIMITS.
anonymous
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March 27, 2012
they robbed Peter to pay Paul for the last three years instead of doing what needs to be done. What is going to happen next year when they can not rob from SPLOST? Layoffs, pay cuts, you name it. Wasteful spending on technology and the usual use it or lose it mentality by all. What a waste
Another Grand Jury
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March 27, 2012
Maybe it is time to bring this back to the District Attorney. If the public voted for an item in SPLOST, it should be followed through. This is ridiculous because the public will not vote another SPLOST and then we will be in trouble. The county has no debt and with out a SPLOST, we will be back in debt thanks to this board!
Crazy Math
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March 27, 2012
The math which is used in this story does not make any sense.
irked
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March 27, 2012
Who's bright idea was it to plan the two projects together when they were separate items in the SPLOST notebook?
They knew
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March 27, 2012
Ms. Eagle stressed all of this, before the vote. They didn't care, as they already knew what their vote would be, long before this meeting.
SouthernGal
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March 27, 2012
Why do we need to separate 9th graders from the upperclassmen?
anonymous
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March 27, 2012
This is simply a dumb question. You might not be a parent.

The ninth grade year is crucial for most kids. How they begin as a freshman will determine their GPA...if they start in the hole, they can likely never dig themselves out. The development between the ages of 14 and 18 (and in some cases, older) is huge. The intimidation factor is huge. Keeping the kids focussed on studies in their first year of high school pays back many dividends. I'm just a parent and cannot put it in more scientific terms than that, but it seems to be common sense, if you are a parent or if you've even been in a high school in the last five years. If you are older, you might need to be told that our culture has greatly changed since the days when a whole high school might be 100 kids. These days, one freshman class can be up to 800 or more kids, making a 9th grade center a real good idea, imo.
cvegan
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March 27, 2012
the point isn't to separate 9th graders, although research shows that it impacts less student drop outs. the point is that the voters approved it in the 2008 referendum...that's call democracy.
To Anonymous
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March 27, 2012
It was not a dumb question. I have children at Harrison and I don't believe that the freshmen need to be separated. I do believe that the addition should be completed, however, to reduce overcrowding. I am tired of my children going outside to change classes, and walking around the building, because you can't get through the halls. The lockers are useless and nobody uses them, because you can't get into them.
this board
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March 27, 2012
does not care about parent concerns..they already proved that with the calendar fiasco, there is only one answer..vote them out!
Full Disclosure
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March 27, 2012
If you are alarmed over this $500,000 you would really be alarmed if you knew the total amount of SPLOST dollars (Central Office Slush Fund) to date that the CENTRAL OFFICE Powers that be have quietly thrown away (mismanaged) with nothing to show for their expenditures. Thrown away dollars intended to be kept from the public. Premature awards made only later to be canceled but still on the hook for the cost. Reckless spending of taxpayer dollars. Speeches made by Eagle carefully crafted and edited so the public would never know about the waste that took place on her watch. Hey Lynnda everyone with a brain knew you would be sure to exploit any added cost associated with the West Cobb 9th Grade Center NOT the Harrison 9th Grade Center. While you are at it why don't you find another mouthpiece to tell all. Surely you remember that carefully crafted speech you made while Chair. Folks, this $500,000 is a drop in the bucket compared to the total mismanaged & thrown away SPLOST dollars to date. An Open Records Request will verify it all.

As for you Sweeney, your efforts to attempt to appear fiscally responsible is laughable. You've never seen a spending project you did not love. If Post 6 had known they were voting for a BFF for Eagle, Banks, & Morgan you would not be sitting on the School Board today. But don't you worry your comeuppance is coming November 2013 and Post 6 cannot wait. Oh BTW - When are you going to start having all those Town Halls you promised? Scared? Worried you will have to face alone all the Post 6 voters you lied to with your campaign promises as you went door-to-door? You said you would vote to get rid of Dillon. I believe you were quoted in the paper as having said "ditto" agreeing with other candidates who said Dillon had to go. Then there were those promises concerning Alice Stouder and the likes. What was that you said your father always told you about keeping your word? No doubt you listened to him as well as you listen to your constituents.
VeyR.K
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March 27, 2012
The school board--crooked to the core with all the fraud and waste, handing out millions in taxpayer cash to connected friends with deals and contracts. A disgrace.
Not so full
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March 27, 2012
Vague diatribes about the "oh so awful school board" just doesn't cut it with most readers. Give us some specifics. Premature awards - which ones? Speeches - what dates? Mismanagement - name one project. Just another lone typist in their basement that feels the world is against them. Is your middle name Wilkes, Harvey or Ray?
hatred
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March 27, 2012
You must be one of the angry mob surrounding

angelucci and

bartlett.

they simply will never support L.Eagle because she was a former educator.. Don't you get it...these two and their groupies don't like educators nor do they want to see Cobb

schools succeed.

they really just want to run the district.
anonymous
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March 29, 2012
Bartlett is a former educator
anonymous
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March 27, 2012
Dear Harrison,

Obviously most of you could care less since you were not in the meeting wearing traditional red. Next time, do your homework, and be prepared for any votes impacting your community.

Unless.... you really don't support this new addition at all.
Dear anonymous
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March 27, 2012
Do you know how many harrison parents emailed and called the board members, asking them to follow through on this project because updates and additions are needed? Ask the board members. I bet they were inundated with both, leading up to this meeting, from concerned Harrison parents.
anonymous
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March 27, 2012
IF you are housing a cafeteria and a new choral room in a 9th grade center, then it's not a 9th grade center. Someone (aka Shepherd) should have never lumped those projects together. And, sorry, I could care less what the person doing the original bid thinks about all of this - did you ask the other eight who lost the bid?
anonymous PT.2
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March 27, 2012
I'm sure the other 8 would be dissapointed in the board throwing away money/work. It could have been them that lost 40% of their of their fee, or their year of work thrown down the drain. Or perhaps the other 8 got work on other projects within the district that aren't being cut. Either way I'm pretty sure that the article was about about the board not having a complete grasp on the scope of the "proposed" project.

BTW...if you "could care less" about others opinions why should we value yours? I think we should be working together to make our county/country a better place to live, not devaluing someone who may actually have a better perspective on something than yourself.

Have a good day, God Bless!
Laura Armstrong
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March 27, 2012
"I could care less what the person doing the original bid thinks about all of this."

Well, anonymous, you are really cutting off your nose to spite your face then, because who knows better than the planners of the project when we are being ripped off?

This isnt' the first time I have heard a contract-winning company basically come right out and say that this school district is one of the worst in terms of corruption and just plain poor business practices. Think about it: you have successful private sector businesses who know how to run their businesses dealing with incompetent government bureacrats who spend other people's money. When someone like this speaks out, even jeopardizing his own livelihood/contract, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL LISTEN UP. WHEN PEOPLE COME OUT AND DO THE RIGHT THING, THEY SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED and disparaged by the likes of this anonymous blogger, who probably works for the district anyway. Where have we seen this before?
anonymous
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March 29, 2012
The reason the new choral facility and additional dining space were lumped into the 9th grade building project is that there is literally nowhere in the existing building to put them. New dining space in the new building could certainly be used for the 9th graders, and in the design, the choral room had its own entrance from the outside so it could feel at least somewhat separate from the 9th grade center.
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