Elections board agrees to Sunday alcohol revote
by Jon Gillooly
jgillooly@mdjonline.com
March 23, 2012 11:52 AM | 3662 views | 51 51 comments | 7 7 recommendations | email to a friend | print
MARIETTA — The Cobb Board of Elections has unanimously agreed to call for a countywide revote on Sunday alcohol sales.

On Friday morning, the five-member board chose not to contest a legal challenge to the March 6 referendum that was brought by two people who live in Cobb cities last week.

It falls to a Superior Court judge to determine whether a revote will take place and when.

“Hopefully the judge will make a decision to put this on the ballot on July 31st,” when voters will already be casting ballots on the Transportation Investment Act referendum, said Beverly Smith, who chairs the Board of Elections. “This will save the taxpayers some money.”

The county’s referendum asked voters whether to allow Sunday sales of packaged liquor in unincorporated Cobb. But the county attorney, Dorothy Bishop, told Elections Director Janine Eveler that only residents who live in unincorporated Cobb should vote on the question, not voters who live in one of the six cities. Residents of the cities pay county taxes and are governed by the county as well as their city, and so have the right to vote on county-related questions, according to the challenge. County Chairman Tim Lee has said that if voters approve the referendum on July 31, it will take effect as soon as possible, perhaps as early as Aug. 1.

One of the people to file suit, former state Rep. Roger Hines of Acworth, said he appreciates the board’s decision.

“All I did was exercise the right to petition, which is something our wonderful legal system allows, and I’m just happy they ruled as they did,” Hines said.

Lee said he believed the board made the right decision as well.

“The most important component of what happened was to maintain confidence in the election process, and I’m pleased at the results,” Lee said.

Lee said he wasn’t aware of another county in Georgia that had the same problem with the election as Cobb did.

“I was embarrassed for the county that the mishap occurred.” Lee said. “I will be doing a review of what occurred to ensure that in the future we don’t duplicate the mistake.”

The board met for about 45 minutes in executive session before coming out to vote not to contest the lawsuit. In addition to Smith, board members include Rob Garcia, Patrick Gartland, Joe Ransbotham and Guy Drexinger.

Gregg Litchfield, attorney for the elections boards, said that while there were some doubts in his mind about the lawsuit, it was better not to contest the challenge rather than risk prolonging the decision and ending up having to hold a costly special election.

Hines’ attorney, Justin O’Dell of the Marietta firm Cauthorn Nohr & O’Dell, said the next step is for a consent order to be presented to a Superior Court judge.

“That consent order will nullify the results of the March 6 referendum on Cobb Sunday sales and order that a new election be held on July 31,” O’Dell said.

The matter has no bearing on the green light voters in Cobb’s six cities gave to Sunday sales at different times on March 6 and last November.
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Too funny
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March 26, 2012
What a colossal waste of time - any law restricting commerce to promote religious dogma does not belong in America.

If you want to live in an alcohol-free theocracy, try Saudi Arabia.
tyler durden
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March 28, 2012
I agree. The hard core members of the republican party are so in line with the old school Wahabbis of Saudi, they have no idea...when I was stationed in the middle eastI kept thinking..."southern baptists would love these guys"
OtherCounties?
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March 25, 2012
Has anyone looked at how other counties handled this issue throughout our State before coming to the conclusion that Cobb did it wrong and must have a redo? Did the residents in the cities of Alpharetta, Atlanta, Chattahoochee Hills, College Park, East Point, Fairburn, Hapeville, Johns Creek, Milton, Roswell, Palmetto, Sandy Springs, and Union City get to vote on this issue when Fulton County had elections in additon to voting on this in their cities? Did the folks who live in Ballground, Canton, Holly Springs, Nelson and Woodstock get to place a vote on the Cherokee County ballot in additon the ballot in their respective city? Wait a minute, about 60% of Nelson is in Pickens County, so if one lives in the City of Nelson do they get to vote for Sunday alcohol sales three times (City of Nelson, Cherokee County and Pikens County)? What about the residents who live in the City of Acworth? Will they get to vote four times on this issue (City of Acworth, Cobb County, Bartow County and Cherokee County)? You see where I'm going witht his? Enough is enough...
Stop the Bandwaggon
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March 25, 2012
For all of the arm chair lawyers who have commented here . . .

As any local government lawyer knows, governmental clients routinely refuse to follow advice given by their lawyers. And when an issue gets too hot politically, the lawyer usually gets blamed in public by the politician. Why, because the lawyer is prohibited by ethical rules from defending herself by disclosing the actual advice given to the client and why. These are privileged communications.

Ms. Bishop is a highly respected lawyer who finished in the top of her class at

Emory Law School. She is the dean of in house local government lawyers in Georgia. If she gave advice that the election could be held this way, it was well-researched. Remember, many things in the law are far from clear. It may well be that she told the chairman and the elections superintendant that the law was unclear but that it was slightly more likely that the correct procedure was to exclude city residents from voint on this issue. We will never know if her advice was correct because it appears there will be a new election without the appellate courts having a chance to clarify the law in this area.

In the law, things are rarely clear or black and white. That is why lawyers have to go to school for seven years, pass the bar and then practice for at least ten years before they are considered fully experienced.
accountability
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March 25, 2012
You defended a profession and don't seem to have one ounce of information to defend Dotty. You're probably a lawyer or a politician.

Why don't you simply do an open records request to get information on internal election communications. I think you'll find Dotty didn't really rule on this much at all. The referendum is crystal clear as to who is charged to vote. And it is supported with case law to back it up. And you may find Janine didn't ask for much help either. She just did what she wanted to and no one checked up on her legally. Complacency is an awful thing regardless of how "fully experienced" you are. These two should be held accountable.

Bill Byrne
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March 25, 2012
Real egg on the face of Cobb County. Are we in a third world country where we don't know how to vote? No this is Cobb County. This is news all across the country. I am embarrassed to live here.
so how come
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March 25, 2012
...you didn't say something when the Commissioners voted to put the question to "voters in unincorporated Cobb County" in the November 2011 meeting? Aren't you reading the agendas too?
We still Remember
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March 25, 2012
Bill Byrne,

What you should be embarrassed about is the horrible legacy that you have left this county. Your Gay Resolution was truly news that was heard around the country. It is still a black eye for our county. Speaking of black eyes, who are those "undesirables" that you keep talking about that will be flooding Cobb if we connect to MARTA? You say that you are a kindler, gentler Bill Byrne who has learned from your mistakes. I see the same ole, same ole. Good luck with that!
cobbhopeful
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March 25, 2012
A mess up yes, still I'm proud to live here. I seem to remember a former Chairman messing things up too. Drop out of the Chairman race Mr. Byrne. Why don't you leave the county again since you are so embarrassed to live here.
anonymous
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March 25, 2012
@Sunday Drinking

A couple of points.

Is there really anywhere in the Bible that prohibits drinking alcohol on Sunday? If so where? Just Curious?

Secondly, if there is such a Biblical "commandment" then it really only applies to your brothers and sisters in Jesus who have pledged themselve to that Biblical standard.

Why would you expect others who are not of the same mind to agree to our beliefs when they have never bought into them?

That is unreasonable on its' face and certainly is contradictory to the teachings of the Bible as I understand it. We should only hold other believers up to our standards.

It is "christians" like you who want to impose our standards on everyone, even non believers, who do more to harm than good when it comes to bringing people to the teachings of Jesus Christ.
glad in canton
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March 24, 2012
if cobb county voted by over 70% in favor of sunday sales why is the election necessary?

people of acworth, mr hines needs to take his personal agenda to the elsewhere.
last stand george
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March 24, 2012
The cities already voted on Sundat sales and it was approved in six. What is the rationale for another vote? All this does is stall the implementation. I don't see where people think this is double taxation in that the revenue will far out weight enforcement. And let's be honest here, there really isn't any need for city governments versus a county government to provide fire and police. Those living in the cities chose to have them.
Beam Town
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March 24, 2012
when are they going to change this law and let me buy booze on sunday? I thought they already voted it in, but my liquor store was closed last sunday. What gives? How am I supposed to buy all the booze I need on sunday if the liquor stores are closed???
TIC
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March 24, 2012
If city voters are smart they will take this opportunity to vote against Sunday alcohol sales in the county.

It is not a matter of being fair, it is a matter of smart economics.

We (city residents) are already double taxed by the county for services they don't provide because our city governments, in most instances, provide those services (i.e. police and fire).

The additional revenue will help make up some of the difference.
East Cobber
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March 24, 2012
I believe the greater issue here, is who is providing legal counsel to Cobb. It is my understanding that the Sunday vote in Gwinnett included the cities. Okay, so what don't they understand about legal precedent???
David P.
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March 24, 2012
That's all right. I'll just buy my Sunday alcohol from our neighboring counties. They need the revenue more than Cobb County does.
David P.
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March 24, 2012
I think all Sunday Liquor sales should be suspended until the vote. Obviously, the cities were out of line putting their referendums on the ballot. It should have only been County-wide.
The fix is in
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March 24, 2012
This re-vote appears to be a pre-planned event designed to pass the TSPLOST in July. The county leadership knew it was going to fail to pass in Cobb, and fail badly.

Now hundreds of thousands ill-informed voters will turn out and TSPLOST has a chance of passing... the $10 billion MARTA bailout on the backs of Cobb County taxpayers.

Boot Tim Lee
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March 24, 2012
Tim Lee will hang Dottie Bishop out to dry on this one! She firmly stood by her legal advice, yet the Tim Lee wouldn't back her up. Maybe she should contest Mr Hines pro-bono...

Regardless of how you vote on Sunday beer, Vote NO on MARTA please vote to BOOT TIM LEE out on election day.
InexperiencedJanineE
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March 23, 2012
Sharon Dunn would have questioned Dotty Bishop, Cobb County attorney, further and not just taken the simple answer Dotty gave concerning this vote.

Janine Eveler has no previous experience working in elections. She was a temporary employee who was promoted.

Doesn't a county as large as Cobb deserve an experienced elections director??? This is the same Janine who hired a training manager from Broward County, Florida, who was seven months pregnant and quit abruptly after getting paid relocation, after she gave birth to her 4th child!!!!
accountability
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March 24, 2012
ELECTIONS BOARD - Hold Janine and Dotty accountable.

FIRE JANINE EVELER AND DOTTY BISHOP - NOW
Prudent decision
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March 25, 2012
Dotty Bishop simply needs to be dismissed from her position. She was the source for this decision. All she had to do was make a few calls and she would have had it right.

The lack of due dilligance on her part have caused this result. If she makes the wrong decision next time then it is not her fault but rather the people who keep her in this position. This was a blunder that requires action.
RogerHinesForMayor
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March 23, 2012
Thank you for standing up for the voters Mr. Hines. More than Tommy Allegood did. Tommy is lazy and I hope you will consider running for Mayor. You have my vote.
Jim Beam
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March 23, 2012
I should be able to drink and buy liquor any day I want. I'm tired of religious fundamentalists in this backward county and state using the bible to tell me what I can and can not do. they need to let me buy booze 24/7 if I want. Stop the fundamentalism in government.
Frank S.
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March 23, 2012
Let's put the rocket scientists responsible for this "oversight" on the ballot too. As for Sunday sales, nobody bothered to poll the electorate about purchasing lottery tickets on Sundays. Isn't that immoral too?
Timus
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March 23, 2012
This is a waste of taxpayer dollars!!! The cities approved it! The unincorporated areas approved it! Why are we spending money that the county doesn't have? As a matter of principal????
CobbGuy
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March 23, 2012
Yo Cities! Have your residents vote NO and you, as a city, get the Sunday revenue, tax money, etc.... Simple. Next.. the attorney that advised the county incorrectly has insurance to cover mistakes, she should be fired immediately and sued for the entire cost of the special election, the insurer will pay, less the deductible, not the county. Bad lawyer, did not consult others apparently, violation of Law School 101 "You never know it all."

Sunday package sales are not necessary (personal opinion, no religious connection) and many of the store owners have said that on television.

No problem here with city dwellers voting twice on the same issue, they pay taxes twice, they vote twice. Sounds wrong but it is probably legal.... Government at work.......wow...
A Taxpayer
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March 23, 2012
IceDogg, please don't use this forum to attack the Bible or the Christian religion. I am a Christian who supports Sunday alcohol sales. You don't have to fight a culture war battle here to make your point about the immediate issue. Such comments take the wind out of the sails of your sound comment -- that Dottie Bishop, if she is as incompetent as she apparently is, needs to be fired immediately.
IceDogg
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March 23, 2012
@Taxpayer -- It was "SundayDrinking" that brought the Bible to the alcohol fight... "Drinking on Sunday is against the Bible and should be outlawed."

I am not attacking YOUR Christian religion. I am attacking SundayDrinking's fictional religion, where they hide behind their own misinterpretations of the Bible to promote their own agenda.

I stand by my comment.
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