Scrap metal dealers fear new law
by Geoff Folsom
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March 18, 2012 12:13 AM | 4756 views | 16 16 comments | 14 14 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Adam Blank, co-owner of ABC Recycling in Marietta, stands at a bind holding scrap metal. Some metal recyclers are opposed to state Legislation that would require them to keep track of every piece of metal they buy. <br> Photo by Marcus E. Howard
Adam Blank, co-owner of ABC Recycling in Marietta, stands at a bind holding scrap metal. Some metal recyclers are opposed to state Legislation that would require them to keep track of every piece of metal they buy.
Photo by Marcus E. Howard
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MARIETTA — Kenny Tesler points to a computer screen that displays feeds from several cameras he has around his metal recycling business. He said he is willing to do what he can to fight metal theft.

“I can send (the recording) to (police) every day,” said Tesler, co-owner of ABC Recycling at 595 Cobb Parkway. “But who’s going to watch it? They don’t have the staff.”

Tesler is concerned about two bills in the Georgia Legislature, one that’s been passed by the House and one by the Senate, which proponents say are intended to cut metal theft.

If passed, House Bill 872 or Senate Bill 321 would put requirements on secondary metals recyclers to get signed statements from everyone who brings them metal to sell, saying they are the rightful owner of the metal. It would also require them to keep a digital photograph or video of what was sold, as well as a record of the transaction.

In addition, all sales would have to be made by check or electronic payment, and sellers would have to show picture identification.

Metal businesses must also register with their local sheriff’s office to be part of an electronic database, with the sheriff allowed to charge each recycler a fee of up to $200 a year to maintain the database.

“I think that it’s way overkill,” Tesler said. “I think it’s not going to accomplish what they intend. I think it’s pretty much political grandstanding.”

Tesler’s business, which he co-owns with Adam Blank, has 15 employees, buying steel for 13 cents a pound, aluminum for 40 cents a pound and copper for up to $3 a pound.

He said he already keeps an eye out for illegal metal sales. Recyclers get updates from law enforcement, warning them to be on the lookout for metal items that have been stolen.

On Thursday, Tesler showed a notice he’d just received, telling recyclers to be on the lookout for ¾-inch water lines and brass shutoff valves that were stolen in Gwinnett County. He said they try to be aware of stolen materials.

“We’re on the lookout for everything,” Tesler said. “It’s not like we’re not trying to address it.”

Marietta Police Det. Russell Henson said law enforcement generally favors legislation that could prosecute people committing the thefts, or those assisting them. He also credits multi-jurisdictional agencies like the Copper Head Metal Task Force, which the Marietta Police Department heads up, for keeping an eye on the problem.

“Overall, these proposed new laws have some good points to them which can assist our agency as well as the Metal Theft Task Force to more effectively perform our job,” he said.

Everyone is at risk of metal theft, with homes, nonprofit agencies and businesses all potential targets, Henson said.

“The theft of metals has a negative impact on all involved,” he said. “Quite often the deductible required to replace or repair the damaged items is not available or hard to come by. In today’s economy, extra cash just isn’t available.”

Metal theft has come under the microscope recently in Marietta after Forrest Duaine Bee Jr., 45, an electrician in the city’s facilities and grounds department, was arrested on charges of theft by conversion.

According to police, Bee ordered electrical wiring worth $1,089 through a city purchase order to be used for the pavilion at Laurel Park. Instead of completing the job, he sold it to the Marietta Recycling Center off Marble Mill Road for $462.50 on Feb. 14, police said.

According to his arrest warrant, Bee sold more than 5,000 pounds of wiring to Marietta Recycling last year.

Bob Schmiedt, a lobbyist for the Georgia Recyclers Association, said the proposed legislation could be devastating to the $3.7 billion Georgia recycling industry, which employs 5,500 people in the state. His group is particularly concerned about the Senate bill, which would require a 14-day waiting period before the people who sell the metals are paid, and also requires checks to be mailed.

“We were able to negotiate with the House,” Schmiedt said. “The Senate didn’t want to negotiate much.”

But Henson sees the waiting period as valuable in slowing down metal thefts.

“The ‘nuisance’ thefts committed by those just looking to get their hands on some quick spending money would possibly come to a halt when the suspects have to wait for a check,” he said.

Schmiedt said his organization favors increased enforcement of existing laws. He said the city of Columbus recently reduced metal theft by 47 percent by running public service announcements warning that metal thieves would be prosecuted. A program that places color-coded markers inside air conditioning units was also started, allowing stolen parts to be identified more easily.

“If it had been up to me, I would have made a metal thief registry, very similar to what we do with sex offenders and DUIs,” Schmiedt said.

Schmiedt said metal recyclers will notify law enforcement if they see something suspicious, but there is only so much they can do.

“You’ve got to be careful because you don’t know who you’re dealing with,” he said. “You don’t know if they’re carrying a gun.”

Recyclers point to the environmental impact it could have to close their facilities, saying extra metal could quickly fill up landfills.

“We do a heck of a lot more good than any problems that may come about because of metal theft,” Tesler said.
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lenny b
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April 11, 2012
all american alloys in elizabeth nj is way ahead of everyone using asytem that takes apicture and saves arecord off all inventory bought
iEngineer
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March 20, 2012
This is just an excuse to record all financial transactions.

While I am not a thief - I *AM* from the IT crowd - and can spot security holes a mile away.

You people are all idiots. All a thief needs is a smelter or another method of reshaping the metal. OR just grind up the metal before you sell it :P And meanwhile everyone else gets bitten for the theft. Evidence gone.

"Solution" busted. NEXT!
slb4
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March 19, 2012
I think it's a great idea.Sick and tired of thieves stealing from homeowners to businesses.Are you afraid of something?
Just Wait
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March 19, 2012
Well @anonymous, got you a little stirred up I see. While I'm not sure that all the new rules they are attempting to put into place are the perfect solution, something needs to be done. It was handled in the pawn shop industry and now many fewer stolen items are turning up there. Metal theft is out of hand, almost impossible for the police to stop with their limited number of people and even harder when the recyclers can buy from anyone without restrictions. It is time for the recyclers to step up and help with this problem, not push the blame to the police and the crooks.
anonymous
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March 18, 2012
Just wait, I was being facetious...while still making better sense than the proposed new dumb law. See my comment to @anonymous above. You guys exhibit the exact type of thinking that makes lawmakers make up dumb laws...because you guys (I assume voters) really believe more laws (dumb or not) solve the problems. Think it thru guys.
miketheknight
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March 18, 2012
fingerprint all sellers, send them a check at home, so if something appears on the fingerprints results, then sent the cops. I really think these recyclers with no fault of their own encourage thiefs to steal
Just Wait
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March 18, 2012
Well cry me a river Mr. Recycler. You've had no problem paying for anything anyone brings to you, even stuff you should have known was stolen but didn't care. If it wasn't so easy to sell stolen metal, it wouldn't be such a draw for criminals. Your worried about your profits, not the thousands of people being victimized across the state.
anonymous
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March 18, 2012
Just Wait, it is clear you are very ignorant of the salvage business and how it serves the community (and makes for cheaper products for you and me). Making profits is how these guys feed their families. Their business is legitimate...and they are currently the only parties already gathering the info that allows law enforcement to actually catch some of the thieves, if and when law enforcement actually gets interested in doing so. Stop insinuating that these guys are the crooks..they are not.

Have you asked yourself why law enforcement that you pay for is so inept at catching people who are openly stealing some rather big/hard to miss items.
CobbRes
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March 18, 2012
Yep, another example of an ineffective "solution" that punishes the lawful, courtesy of your government bureaucrats. Here's a novel idea:why not use police work to catch and prosecute the criminals? Oh yeah, that would cost the government money, not the private citizen.
Amy Barnes
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March 19, 2012
Nono - they're freaking out ALSO because people are collecting cans from all their neighbors and are turning them in for the extra cash they need to make ends meet, that is part of the 14-day delay, so people will be unable to pay last-minute bills.

I donate my cans to two neighbors in need - it pays for part of their utility bills.

Lawmakers are desperate right now to block all ways the poor have of accessing fast cash in emergencies, because the poor need to be punished for being poor - after all, they must have done something to deserve it, right? (I'm being sarcastic by the way.)

This bill is horrible! This is robbery! The 14-day waiting period is unconstitutional THEFT, because the banks holding onto the money get to make 14 day's interest on the money. This "waiting period" garbage is why the Unum Life Insurance class action lawsuit was filed -- the banks gave beneficiaries check books and implied that the money was best to stay in their accounts - people lost thousands of dollars in lost income and investment opportunities.

Watch out GA - I can just SEE a class action challenge lawsuit. Taxpayers, open your wallets for the legal fees!
anonymous
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March 18, 2012
Another dumb response to a problem by the hacks of the always un-clever (rino) political class.

What about the cops stationing a car outside the entrance to these recycle places. The mere presence of the cops WILL keep many thieves away from the recycle shops.
@anonymous
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March 18, 2012
Another comment from a clueless libtard. Tell us, Einstein, where is the money is going to come from to satation an officer at every recycling center? You are obviously prepared to reduce the active force on the street, including the car. Please, please enlighten us. Logistics are not your strong suit, are they blabber mouth?

At least someone is trying to help. What have you done lately except stick your hand out for more?
Just Wait
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March 18, 2012
Are you personally going to pay for each of the police officers?
anonymous
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March 18, 2012
Hey @anonymous, do you think it is going to be cheaper to enact the dumb law and then enforce follow up on the thieving uncovered by that? "At least Someone is trying to help?"...by shackling the legitimate businesses engaged in the recycling of scrap metals with onerous paperwork details...because the police are absolutely ineffective at stopping thieving? Give me a break. What this legislation will do is allow for an increase in prosecutions of salvage operators for not correctly maintaining their paperwork...trust me. That is the type of crime law enforcement likes fighting best.

Please, @anonymous..YOU ARE thinking like a libtard.

anonymous
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March 18, 2012
@anonymous, after a second read of your comment, it occurred to me that you are probably part of the law enforcement community. Be safe.
johncd
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March 18, 2012
Stakeouts are a complete waste of law enforcement time in this matter. The dealer is responsible, just like a pawn shop. I.D. the seller, photograph him and and the items, mail the check to a permanent address as shown on the ID card.. Then report all sales to the local PD. It works for pawn shops and it will work here as well.
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