Bus Cams - Legal questions should be cleared up quickly
February 12, 2012 01:00 AM | 1835 views | 10 10 comments | 8 8 recommendations | email to a friend | print
There are 100 school buses in the Cobb School District fleet that have been retro-fitted with cameras on their stop arms to catch drivers who don’t stop while children board and exit buses. The cameras are a great tool for helping enforce the law and enhance the children’s safety. And thus far more than 300 violations have been recorded by the cameras and submitted to police.

There’s just one little problem: The state law in question does not allow police to issue citations in such cases.

Huh?

“We cannot write a ticket (for these violations) because there is no method in place that allows a peace officer to issue a citation,” Cobb Police Sgt. Dana Pierce said. “Whether we write a ticket or not though, we still address the issue with the (violator).”

But at present, the county Solicitor General’s Office cannot fine violators because it is a civil, not criminal matter, according to Cobb Solicitor General Barry Morgan.

“The state law didn’t grant us the ability to prosecute civil cases when they wrote the law,” he said.

Morgan added that the discrepancy was noticed by the school district last summer when the law was implemented. So now he and representatives from the various parties involved (county government, school district and police) are trying to get an ordinance in place to let them actually enforce the stop arm law.

Once that law is in place, the board would then have to approve a Memorandum of Understanding relating to the costs involved and how the funds generated by the violations would be distributed.

“The ordinance will hopefully be passed in two weeks,” said Cobb Commission Chairman Tim Lee. “The MOU is under review by the school board attorney, and when they finally come back, which will hopefully be soon, with their change and recommendations … then it’ll be brought before the (commission) to be adopted formally.”

It’s expected that Cobb would become the first county in Georgia to resolve the legalities of the Stop Arm Law.

“We’re working as diligently as we can, but being cautious,” Lee said. “When you venture into a whole new area where there is no precedent or other jurisdictions doing it as a starting point, we want to be timely but careful.”

Fair enough. The important thing is to get the matter cleared up, and quickly. Otherwise it’s akin to arming a country’s army with all the latest weaponry, but not equipping it with any ammunition.
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B Driver
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March 04, 2012
As a current Cobb bus driver, perhaps I can touch on some of the questions raised.

As far as stop arm camera, the issues seem to be worked out. Tickets should be going out pretty soon. The drivers I know that have them really seem to like them and I hope we get more of them.

Regarding the GPS/Cell Phone system, all of our buses have had them for some time. Dispatch knows exactly where we are at every moment as well as our speed and direction of travel. The ones that seem the most "surprised" by this is the students that can no longer blame the bus driver when they are late to the bus stop. We can now tell the parents exactly what time we arrived at their child's stop while their child was dawdling on his or her way there.

Regarding Laura's comments - I can only speak for myself, but I have never had a maintenance problem that wasn't fixed quickly and properly. As far as the pay, I knew what the job paid before I took it - no one forced me to work there (and for what it's worth, Cobb pays its drivers better than many of the surrounding counties). And I have never felt disrespected or unappreciated by management. It's like any job out there - you have to give a little respect to get a little respect.

And for "go LA go" - do you realize our buses make over 42 THOUSAND stops every school day? Is every stop ideal? Of course not, but what do you expect us to do for those kids that live along Cobb Parkway, or Austell Road, or Sandy Plains road - just tell them to find another way to get to school? And as far as sex offenders, the bus stop is in YOUR neighborhood. Don't YOU know where the sex offenders are in your own area? Does the county have to do everything for you?

Please excuse the long winded reply, but I thought perhaps I could put some of these issues to rest.
otter357
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February 13, 2012
Hey posters, is it possible that the buses will have their cameras and the legalities of the Stop Arm Law will be easily resolved in a few weeks?

Concerned taxpayer
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February 13, 2012
I hope they get the cell phone GPS on all vehicles. I bet they would be surprised where all the vehicles are during the day, plus they would be able to dispatch better
ol' retired doc
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February 12, 2012
Another boondoggle as it becomes more and more

apparent that virtually every facet of Cobb

County government is totally incompetent. Sad but

very true.
Mr. WTF
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February 12, 2012
First the boondoggle with the communications devices (cell phones being purchased using questionable federal funds for drivers to communicate with dispatch) and now this.

What other skeletons are hiding in the Transportation Department? But don't worry, Hinojosa doesn't have a dog in this fight and board members don't have the attention span for it so we'll never probably find out.
Laura Armstrong
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February 12, 2012
I would love to know why these cameras and the expenditures were approved by the school board before anyone (like Transportation Manager Rick Grisham or Warner) even did the due diligence to find out if violators could be prosecuted. Obviously this is another instance of the Transportation Department spinning off and purchasing non-essential, non-researched items while at the same time maintenance suffers and drivers are ill-compensated and treated with little respect.

I'd like to see this discussed on the record by the board, and I still believe the board should be auditing the Transportation Department, which has been mismanaged for years now. The board continues to fail the public in this matter.
anonymous
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February 13, 2012
It’s the Cobb Way Expect the Worst Cobb school board has sold more papers than anybody.
same LA tune
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February 13, 2012
Laura, you only know what you hear from your disgruntled few, particularly a couple of fired drivers who had poor performance records as long as your arm...never did hear the findings reported from the independent state inspection of the transportation dept after the drummed up grand jury fiasco...oh that's right, those findings were positive!
anonymous
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February 13, 2012
was it mismanaged when Mr Pitts was in charge or are you singling out current management? Just like Mr Obama tried to point out, things did not get this way by themselves. The previous regimen helped it along the way.
go LA go
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February 21, 2012
You may think Laura is just getting information from disgruntled bus drivers but if you watch buses on the road, you will see some of the safety issues. For one students are not to cross more than two lanes of traffic when loading or unloading, that is the lane the bus is in and one more. I can show you many stops where students cross three or more lanes on busy roads. Does anyone from transportation go out and check stops to make sure they are safe? What about sex offenders do they check to see if their dropping children off at a sex offender’s door? Oh, I forgot, when I asked the sex offender question I was told it was up to the parents to check. Please, it’s their job to make sure every child is safe, they delegate the stops they need to check them out before a bus every drops a child off. Laure is right to put pressure on the transportation department 100’s of children’s lives depend on them every day
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