Chairman Lee: Tax hike may be inevitable
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MARIETTA — County Chairman Tim Lee said Thursday that a tax increase may be the way to close the county’s 2012 budget hole. Lee also announced during a speech to the Marietta Kiwanis Club that the county has retained its triple-A credit ratings from all three rating agencies, and that the county will create a strategic plan.

“I am $20 million in the hole for 2012 because of projected revenue declines. I’m here to tell you that means one of two things: Either we figure out a new revenue source to help offset that, or we cut departments and people from this organization,” Lee said. “There is no more cutting to be done.”

Last September, county commissioners approved a $328.3 million budget for fiscal 2011. But in April, commissioners had to make an additional $31 million worth of cuts, which they accomplished in part by furloughing all county employees, closing some senior centers, scaling back library hours and using nearly $5 million from reserve funds.

In response to a question after his speech about raising taxes, Lee said, “Looking at a millage increase is something we’re going to have to consider for 2012.” County commissioners must approve the budget for fiscal 2012, which begins Oct. 1, in September.

But Lee also insisted he wants to hear from citizens about whether they would be willing to pay more in taxes.

“The decision has got to be made by the folks in Cobb County as to what they want Cobb to be,” Lee said. “In my mind, I think most of us want Cobb County to be what it was in 2007, which is respected for being the best in every avenue we do. … If we want Cobb to continue to be great, with services and enjoyment from quality of life, we have to decide whether or not we want to invest in that future.”

Jamie Vann, a member of the club who lives in west Cobb and is a personal friend of Lee’s, said he doesn’t want taxes raised, but “it doesn’t look like they have many other places to go.”

“It’s a tough place to be right now,” Vann said. “Tim understands this is a conservative county, and you don’t start off by talking about raising taxes. He’s under a lot of pressure, and I wouldn’t want to be in his seat. Nobody’s in favor of raising taxes, but if that’s what we have to do to provide services, I think you do what you have to do.”

Early in his speech, the chairman lauded the county’s 4,000 employees, who have taken personal financial hits through the furlough days.

“For years, we’ve had a reputation for being the best at what we do. … It’s not the five elected officials who make that happen. More times than not, we get in the way and screw it up. It’s the 4,000 people who work for Cobb County, who work for you, who come to work day after day for 10 or 15 or 30 years that give everything they have to make this county great,” Lee said.

“We are the best-run county in the Southeast because of the employees who work for you. Just Tuesday, we got affirmation from the last two rating agencies that we are keeping our triple-triple A rating by all three agencies,” Lee said. “We are now one of only 20 cities in the U.S. that has triple-triple A rating from all three agencies.” The high ratings allow the county to borrow money more cheaply.

Lee also told the crowd the county is going to create a strategic plan, which will be its first.

“We’ve never had one,” he said. “When you have a lot of money, you don’t need a plan. You spend as you desire. But we need a strategic plan so all employees and citizens know where Cobb County is heading.”
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Amy Barnes
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July 08, 2011
If we cut out the $3 million paid out to charities like - a housemate match, a golf organization, and more - then that's $3 million less of a hole.

Administrative agencies are all about one thing - billable hours. Some charity funding is used for salaries of top people, which can exceed $90,000. Where is our money going??? Quite frankly, I am not dishonest enough to start my own "charitable organization." These businesses pay NO taxes.

I tried to get a friend help from Must Ministries, and she was turned away because her utility bill had no ZIP code, and one homeless man was praying there but could not get help because he could not prove his address.

Drop the charities' slush funds, and follow the Constitution, and let US give of our own accord to charities!
lechat
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July 06, 2011
KV, you get less coherent with every post. Especially so when you make absurd claims like “…Cobb citizens have been overpaying on property taxes for years” when the evidence of low millage rates and high levels of service and amenities directly belie such nonsense.

Thanks for the laugh, though. It took a second, but I almost fell out of my chair when I realized you were trying to spell “voila”. Doesn’t take a French major, Buckwheat, just someone with a modest amount of knowledge…..but that WOULD exclude you, I suppose.

Kennesaw Voter
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July 06, 2011
If you raise the millage rate - you will make my beautiful Cobb county just like Fulton and Dekalb...that would be a shame and a shock; those counties are big time government waste and taxper abuse...DON'T DO THAT TO US!!
Kennesaw Voter
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July 06, 2011
Chairman Lee, it is not a hard choice. Cut spending. Forget the tax increase aka millage increase because Cobb citizens have been overpaying on property taxes for years. When times were good it seems the county just kept on spending and thinking of new ways to spend a tax dollar...STOP THAT!!

I say one way to increase productivity would be to get these county employees who are wasting our tax dollars by spending time reading the paper and posting self serving comments...I bet you could save a few hundred thousand dollars right there.

Cobb does not need 4000 county employees so reduce that number by 5%, couple those cuts witht he above mentioned productivity increase and walaa...you have your balanced budget.

PS: I know I mispelled walaa...I am not a french major so I am not concerned about spelling that french word.

BTW, I fund my own retirement, I pay a TON of property taxes and I VOTE.
kennesaw voter
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July 06, 2011
the county does have a hyb rid plan that is a 401k. you still have to be a certain age 59 to be able to draw either plan regardless of how old you are when you retired. educate yourself before acting like you know what is going on.we also have to contribute over 5% each paycheck to our plans even if we don't want to. I also have my own IRA accounts set up that my spouse and I contribute too with tax returns. Instead of complaining try yo take care of your own retirement.
Cobb Insider
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July 06, 2011
Kennesaw Voter- If you want Cobb to the Cobb county retirement system should be changed to a 401k just like the private sector........THEN PAY US LIKE THE PRIVATE SECTOR!!!!! YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!!!!

And to the people who say it's an easy job to be a government worker & how we are all rolling around in our riches.....GET REAL!!! I think Jack Nicholson said it best in A few Good Men...."If you think you could do a better job, then I suggest you pick up a weapon and man a post!!"

Cobb County has great employees and alot of the workforce is prior military and/or federal workers. If you keep blaming and making the employees cut, then you WILL end up with another Fulton County workforce!! You get what you pay for!!
Dave G
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July 05, 2011
Ever wonder when there are cuts to be made the first ones they put on the block are teachers, cops, and fire department.

They get everyone so worked up that eventually they back out of those cuts (they weren't going to happen anyway). Then they go with what they were going to do in the first place.

My answer is to get your hands out of my pockets. Don't spend above your means. That is what you expect of the citizens, and what I expect of you. Any less and I will work to vote you out.
lechat
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July 05, 2011
@Cobb Citizen:

Until county programs and expenditures are actually cut back to whatever different level the people and their representatives might agree upon, to insist that someone else (county employees) other than yourself (KV) bear the costs IS asking for something for nothing. This may well be especially true when the demands are made in the form of unsubstantiated rants (KV).

As long as services exist, we all have the opportunity to make use of them, and all, to some degree, benefit from their existence whether we directly use them or not. We all, therefore, have the subsequent responsibility to pay our share under the system currently in place. This is sort of the way a republic works. We don't (or shouldn't) get to opt out and use political pressure to toss our burdens onto our neighbors when we get into a snit over how certain aspects of our collective responsibilities are being handled.
Kenn.V
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July 05, 2011
to Cobb Citizen

Mom?
Cobb Citizen
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July 05, 2011
Not once have i read that the KV advocated getting something for nothing...not once. Why are some of you attacking him/her on that?? Makes no sense and cuts your credibility when you post falsely like that.

BTW, I think Cobb should cut spending.
Cobb Lover
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July 05, 2011
I am about as conservative as they come and I am usually against ANY tax increases, however, it seems that in this particular case it is not only inevitable but necessary. To the KV I say this: It's quite obvious to all of us reading your rants that you expect to receive as much as you can for paying little to nothing. I would agree that there has been some "pie in the sky" spending and that there is definitely fat to be trimmed. But when the county is so far behind the rest of Metro Atl in the mil rate and it's time to come a little more in line. The answer to the problem is not one sided. There needs to be cuts made and there needs to be a raise in the revenue. To maintain the level of service the citizens have come to expect and to maintain the quality of life for not only the citizens but also the employees that service the county a simple balance has to be met. SO, to all the Dems out there its time to realize that you can no longer get quite as much as you have for as little as you have in the past and for the Reps it's time to realize that a bump in the revenue is necessary. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. Suck it up and move on.
MPCato
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July 05, 2011
KV--Your neighbors are afraid to argue with you. They don't want to upset the loonie.
Kennesaw Voter
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July 05, 2011
And another thing....the Cobb county retirement system should be changed to a 401k just like the private sector....if a county employee wants a retirement paycheck...let them fund it just like the rest of us...and they can start drawing their retirement at age 59 just like the rest of us....Citizens of Cobb County should elect me...I will cut your taxes and actually improve your services...it can be done....TIM LEE will be voted out of office if he raises the millage rate.
Kennesaw Voter
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July 05, 2011
To all of you who say "I am willing to pay an extra $100 or $200 dollars or we will become just like Dekalb or Fulton County"...that is MORONIC LOGIC!! If Tim Lee raises the millage rate and thus our taxes...Cobb County will be exactly like Dekalb and Fulton Counties....if it happens, TIM LEE and the rest of the county commissioners will be VOTED OUT OF OFFICE!!! Believe me, all my neighbors are with me on this one....and no need for the county employees to respond to this post either...we all know what you are going to say already.
repubnut
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July 05, 2011
When my cost-of-living goes up,,,,I have to cut expenses, I do not go to my employer and demand increases to balance my bank-book,,,I CUT COST IN ORDER TO BALANCFE MY BANK-BOOK the same way I expect our county commissioners to do..PLEASE ACT LIKE REPUBLICANS not DEMOCRATS !!!
MPCato
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July 05, 2011
Kennesaw Voter:

Lincoln said, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Do you ever wonder why your friends keep quoting this particular adage to you?
Hey Kennesaw Voter
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July 05, 2011
So you're the only one with 1st amendment rights? I'll bet you don't let your wife drive either.
Rocky7
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July 03, 2011
Do the morons posting here think the only county employees are fire and police? There are thousands of other employees in a multitude of departments who performs important albeit not-essential tasks and could be furloughed. It is sad that our county has grown without adequate foresight and made financial commitments as though the economy would always grow. Our dear leaders never study history and did not know that recessions and shifts in population patterns happen with some regularity - but our dear leaders are always surprised.

Why does a lack of planning on the part of commissioners constitute a financial crisis for the rest of us? Let them start trimming in their own staff and expenses - then follow with other cuts with public safety being absolutely the last thing considered!
Kennesaw Voter
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July 03, 2011
If you want to go swimming - then you pay for it a private facility....Cobb County does not need to put public funds into swimming pools unless they are completely self sufficient and don't need tax dollars to stay open.

If you want to read something - pay for it at a book store or go online and surf the internet. You can also go to one of library at a university. Public libraries are nice to have when there is money left over from funding requirements like police and fire.

No tax increase is needed to fund the basics and right now that is ALL the county should be funding.

No millage increase PERIOD.

County employees should be barred from posting on this site because we all know exactly what they are going to say.....they are very self serving and we see right through them.
sensibletaxpayer
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July 02, 2011
It is not a tax increase. It is a millage rate increase. Stop your whining people. Every other county in metro Atlanta has already increased the millage rate. It isn't a spending problem but a revenue problem. The government has cut alot from the employees who have been serving YOU over the years and no more can be cut without compromising your safety or taking away some of the services you love. Because your property values have fallen so much over the last few years, your annual property taxes have dropped too. Therefore, the county doesn't have enough money to keep providing for you what they have provided in the past. They've cut and now it is time to change the millage rate. Even with a millage rate increase, you will still likely pay less in property taxes this year than last year because your property values dropped again this year. I live in Douglas County. Our millage rate went up 2 points last year but even with the increase, I still paid $200 less than I did the year before because my property value dropped so much. I just got my assessment today and it looks like it is going down another $100 this year unless there is another slight millage increase, which I am willing to pay to keep our firefighters and police officers. If you keep cutting your services, the county won't be as good of a place to live and your property values will drop even more. Cobb County has one of the lowest rates around. Quit whining and do what needs to be done to fix your problem.
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