Steve Thompson: Georgia's 'get tough' HB 87 does nothing positive; will cost state millions
by Steve Thompson
Guest Columnist
June 23, 2011 12:00 AM | 2284 views | 17 17 comments | 12 12 recommendations | email to a friend | print
I have read with great interest your recent stories regarding the passage of HB 87, "The Immigration Bill."

I voted yes to the earlier Senate version which was fairly constructed and reasonable. It held an approach to a situation that Congress created and is charged with overseeing. It also was an effort on the part of some members to attack the proliferation of illegal immigration since the passage of NAFTA, a federal act passed in the 1990s through a Republican Congress and a Democratic President.

NAFTA had in its roots an effort to compete with a European Union and the Pacific rim countries. As happens so often to much legislation, there are unfortunate and unintended consequences (although some people are suspect as to their knowledge of those consequences). In this case an example would be big business trying to drive down the cost of labor to nearly the level of indentured servitude. Unfortunately, during that time many American corporations were moving to foreign countries (to the very nations with whom they say they wish to compete) including their corporate headquarters, factories and their tax liability off shore.

The labor movement was spawned early in the last century by violent acts committed against workers by the Pinkerton Detective Agency at the behest of the robber barons. Factory fires in New York City occurred and hundreds of women perished hurling themselves out of windows as they had no other avenues of escape due to terrible workplace conditions.

The labor movement was an absolute necessity in order to bring a balance of safety laws and integrity to the workplace.

The resultant labor unions have not always been their own best friend, i.e. the unwanted elements who fought for and gained control several decades ago. However, the labor movement was and is a real part of our history and our country's system, and the balance of safety laws and integrity in the American workplace is still vital and necessary. It is my sincere prayer that business and labor do not repeat these past mistakes.

As legal and illegal immigration mushroomed following the passage of NAFTA, many people from Mexico, in a desperate effort to feed their families and better their lives "ran the beltline" or "jumped the fence" and crossed the river into this country. I quite frankly wonder who amongst us would not try it ourselves if it meant feeding our children.

While the Hispanic demographic happens to be the number two ethnic group to win the Congressional Medal of Honor on behalf of our nation, I want every person in this country to pay their taxes where they earn their living, and certainly not to send it out of the United States. I also want to provide some road or path for those who have children who are American citizens.

Congress should pass the proper legislation, fund the effort, and then secure the borders to ensure that only legal immigration occurs.

I have voted for legislation which would require that immigrants, within six years of their arrival in this country, take any drivers' test in English. I also introduced and debated, during the legislative session this year, an amendment that would tackle the real problem: individuals who provide false green cards, visas, or stolen Social Security numbers. My amendment was that these individuals would be charged with a felony, and would serve no less than five years in prison. Unfortunately, my amendment was voted down by the "get tough" crowd that just wasn't quite tough enough on that day.

Ultimately, I refused to take a bow for passing a measure that does nothing positive and which will cost our state millions of dollars for doing the job of Congress.

The final bill, HB 87, actually puts small and medium sized businesses in very real danger of breaking state law. They will be held liable if they do not use the federal registry called "E-Verify." An example:

"A subcontractor shall not enter into any contract with a contractor unless such subcontractor registers and participates in the federal work authorization program. A subcontractor shall submit, at the time of such contract, an affidavit to the contractor in the same manner and with the same information required in paragraph (1) of this subsection. It shall be the duty of any subcontractor receiving an affidavit from a sub-subcontractor to forward notice to the contractor of the receipt, within five business days of receipt, of such affidavit. It shall be the duty of a subcontractor receiving notice of receipt of an affidavit from any sub-subcontractor that has contracted with a sub-subcontractor to forward, within five business days of receipt, a copy of such notice to the contractor." (Page 4, lines 125 through 134, HB 87).

Did you understand that? I can guarantee that a small businessman or businesswoman will not either. But wait: That's not all. On behalf of the agribusiness community, the provisions in the bill allow exemption from this for any business with 10 or less employees. Who do you think is the major employer of the illegal immigrants? So most of the labor force is not even addressed in the law!

Also, earlier in this past legislative session, the "get tough" crowd passed a bill which would require that anyone arrested on a DUI, if they are illegal, would be charged with a felony on the first offense. They can take another bow. This sounds good on the surface, but actually, before being deported, these illegals would serve time in a Georgia prison. The cost involved to maintain that person would involve a bed that costs $56,000 to build, and costs $26,000 per year to maintain. That is almost $200,000 per immigrant!

These measures were passed without fiscal notes which would explain how much of our Georgia tax dollars it would take to implement these measures. The state of Utah claims a cost of $12 million, but Georgia is a much larger state which would multiply the costs and with the same economic problems.

In effect, we have passed a measure that does not punish the people responsible for the issue and that creates a substantial tax liability for Georgia citizens in order to enforce a law that is the responsibility of Congress to start with.

This bill creates constitutional questions Georgia will spend millions to defend and lose the case. It also gives Georgia and its citizens an additional black eye in the international community by punishing the wrong people.

It is truly an unfortunate fact that we in the legislature cannot work together to pass a reasonable law that all of us who do not approve of illegal immigration can support. How "tough" does it sound now? This senator, whose heritage includes Scotch, Irish, English, Dutch, and some American Indian, wishes that we all could have been silently pleased with our efforts and that we could have provided legislation where no one would feel the need to grandstand or take a bow, for what is in fact our job.

Sen. Steve Thompson (D-Powder Springs) is the Dean of the Georgia Senate.
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NorthCobbResident
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July 04, 2011
To Chris 2011,

My guess is you have known since you were 18 years of age that you were not a U.S. citizen, so have you ever tried to apply for citizenship? If not, then why not?
chris 2011
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June 29, 2011
ive been here since the age of 4 im 28 now i have two kids that are born here ive never been arrested or commited a crime.both my kids and girlfriend are us citizens and i cant even get my drivers license.I think this law is way too harsh they should deport or lock up people who cause problems not someone like me who is rasing a family.I didnt choose to be here my parents brought me here and i dont even know what mexico looks like.its crazy!
misterbill
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June 26, 2011
anonymous--

"In a down housing market, it does not make sense to drive these folks away"

The epitome of how we got to where we are.

You support law breaking to maintain your values in your property. This is the greed principle whereby laws do not have any meaning as long as "my" assets are protected.However if it does not affect "me". let;'s uphold the law.

Stage two of your argument anonymous becomes-- "well, it's a civil violation not a crime".

I don't want to know what your stage 3 is, but I suspect a lot of people are behind bars at that stage.

Growth at any cost, income at any cost. If I follow your logic, next is that drunken hit and run drivers stimulate the insurance company business and boost the car industry.



anonymous
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June 26, 2011
This may be the first time in my 51 years of life I have ever agreed with Sen. Thompson. I have worked every campaign, I could against him but his logic on this one is quite amazing considering his other votes.

A) In a down housing market, it does not make sense to drive these folks away - Home building is the sector which will bring us out of the recession

B) They do buy food and other goods.

In other words, they are consumers.
worried and more
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June 25, 2011
I am concerned that this senator admits he doesn't undersatnd stae law.
without
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June 25, 2011
It is wihout great interest that I say we too could not make it to the end.... yawn
misterbill
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June 24, 2011
Holy Cow-

Thanks, your notice of the reference to Medal Of Honor winners escaped me in my reading of Thompson's rant. What a toadying, sycophantic statement! Made,I am sure, to try to win the illegal vote. We would be better served if Thompson fought to prosecute those who support illegal immigration or those who try to vote illegally.
Indian Joe
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June 24, 2011
Sounds like Sen Thompson has gotten wind that he may have opposition in the next election. Or could we be that lucky??? Seems he is courting the vote of these illegals - and he is supposed to take an oath about the constitution?? It is pretty bad when these illegals can openly demonstrate about hos "unfair" the laws are - but for someone in Thompson's position to actually appear to agree with them if outrageous. Liberals will never learn - they have to be taught (like Barnes was) that people have minds of their own and know bull----when they hear it
HOLY COW!
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June 23, 2011
What a windbag! This column could easily be cut by u. It would still be the rantings of a liberal, but it would have taken much less space in the paper. Note to Thompson and all liberal Dems. You can't make sense of your mindless junk no matter how much you write. Who cares where your ancestors came from? Why do we need to hear about military medals?

"While the Hispanic demographic happens to be the number two ethnic group to win the Congressional Medal of Honor on behalf of our nation"

Good grief. And you can eat all parts of a turnup. Price of eggs here?
Robert Johnson
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June 23, 2011
I can't post an educated comment - I couldn't make mysef slof to the end of this mess of blather. I can see that the imigration bill is making illegal aliens leave Ga. Is that the complaint?
BabyBoomer51
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June 23, 2011
What about ILLEGAL do you not understand Mr. Thompson? ILLEGAL = breaking the law. You also failed to mention that ILLEGALS are currently costing our state about $2BILLION a year and there's no telling how much FRAUD is being committed with WIC and other entitlement programs with these people that is not being counted in the $2Billion figure.
Duty
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June 23, 2011
Could not agree more. The Ga bill is a mishmash of half baked ideas. A kid who is a born U.S. citizen can get arrested if he drives his foreign born mom to the grocery store. It does not do enough to put the heat on employers who hire illegals, including farmers.

We need a path to citizenship, no matter how ant-amnesty you are. We need to deal with those who have been here for 15-20 years, worked, paid taxes, raised their kids, haven't committed a felony - many have bought homes. Yes, we need to do a better job of closing the border and reducing the lure of jobs - so we won't have to have a "path to citizenship" every 20-30 years. But we need to deal with the problem (again) and soon.
Impressed
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June 23, 2011
Very well said Mr. Thompson. Glad to hear a reasonable voice on this issue (and in MDJ of all places!).
frogbreath
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June 23, 2011
Mr Thompson should take a week or so off. He should sit with anyone who can explain the paragraph, (with "A subcontractor shall not enter into any contract with a contractor unless such subcontractor registers and participates in the federal work authorization program", in it.

I will wager that 90% or more of his constituents know what it means or at least know its purpose.
misterbill
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June 23, 2011
Fortunately, for me, Thompson is not my Senator.

Unfortunately, he does (supposedly) represent Georgians.

Fortunately, there are elections every few years.
Ole Man
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June 23, 2011
It seems the response is typical of a Democrat. Something has to be done to those who break the law. Entering the country is against the law.
anonymous
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June 23, 2011
--- RE: In this case an example would be big business trying to drive down the cost of labor to nearly the level of indentured servitude. Unfortunately, during that time many American corporations were moving to foreign countries (to the very nations with whom they say they wish to compete) including their corporate headquarters, factories and their tax liability off shore.---

Mr. Thompson shows his cluelessness and/or willingness to spout the mindless lines of people who think "corporations" are evil.

That said, he is right when he says that it will be businesses, big and small, who will be the people who are turned into the villains (criminals) when they fail to comply with the administrative/paperwork requirements of this legislation.

No, we won't close the border and stop the people who come here illegally, but we will shackle our businesses/business people with

onerous administrative/ reporting/paperwork requirements that can be easily (and safely) policed by law enforcement and that when violated, can yield large monetary fines for the state coffers and the ability of law enforcement to say how victorious they have been in "fighting" illegal immigration.

This legislation will affect all employers, whether they hire illegals or not.
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