Ott conducts town hall meeting to talk about $31 million budget gap
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Cobb County District 2 Commissioner Bob Ott speaks to a crowd of about 150 at Mount Bethel United Methodist Church in east Cobb on Tuesday night during a town hall meeting with Ott's constituents.<br>Staff/Mike Jacoby
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EAST COBB - The county's $31 million budget crisis was the talk of the town hall meeting hosted by east Cobb Commissioner Bob Ott on Tuesday night.

Ott shared his suggestions for solving the shortfall and answered questions in front of about 150 concerned and curious residents at Mount Bethel United Methodist Church.

Cobb Finance Director Jim Pehrson announced last week that the county would need to find $31 million to balance its budget before October. Ott said he agreed with west Cobb Commissioner Helen Goreham that nothing can be off the table to address the situation, though he disagreed with Goreham that a tax increase is necessary.

"I've said 'no' to a tax increase, and I'll stand by that," Ott said. "Your commissioners can't come to you and say, 'We're spending too much money so we need a raise.'...We're not operating in a vacuum, so we have to look ahead. If all we did was raise the millage rate and the same thing happens next year, are we going to raise it again? We don't need to ask for another increase in our allowance."

Ott said he supports furloughing employees, as he said it would save people's jobs while also saving the county money. Ott said one furlough day would save the county about $660,000, and he suggested implementing seven furlough days across the board to save approximately $4.7 million. He said he does not, however, support pay cuts.

"To me, the worst thing you can do to an employee, especially one who doesn't make a whole lot, is cut their pay," Ott said. "People buy cars, have mortgages, and they plan their lives based on their pay. The easiest thing to do is to lay people off, but it's a terrible economy to do that. The in between is the furlough day. And if you cut people's pay, they're still working the same number of days for less money whereas they're not having to come to work that day that you're not paying them for."

The county faces the shortfall because the fiscal year budget is projected in October, but funds for that budget are not collected until almost 10 months later, when property tax bill payments are collected. That means that county officials have to project what the collections will be, and if property values shrink, so does the budget.

"So why hasn't the timing of the collection of revenues been solved? If we don't solve it, we're going to hit this problem again and again and again," said David Hong of the East Cobb Civic Association.

Ott said there are a number of changes that would have to occur along with a shift in collections, such as the issuance of tax anticipation notes in March of each year and setting aside money to do that, which Ott said the county cannot afford to do at this time. And even if the county could afford to do that, it would take up to four years to completely make the shift to a different budgeting process, Ott said. Still, Ott agreed with Hong.

"We need to change it," Ott said.

Ott said County Manager David Hankerson will present a list of recommendations to fill the $31 million gap on April 12, and that the commissioners will likely vote to implement changes sometime in April.

"It can't get carried out for too long because we need to address it now," Ott said.

Some of the options Ott believed to be off the table included completely shutting down Cobb Community Transit. CCT eats away around $13 million of the county's general fund budget each year, but has a $26 million string attached with federal grant money that would need to be repaid if the county shut it down. Ott also thinks that selling off parkland the county has acquired, but perhaps has not yet developed, is also off the table.

The recent passage of a new, 2011 Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax was also a topic that sometimes popped up in the two-hour meeting, and while Ott defended his vote to place the SPLOST on the March 15 ballot, he said he did not support the SPLOST that was passed. Commissioners voted 4-1 in December to place the four-year, $492 million SPLOST on the ballot, with Goreham dissenting.

"I voted to put the SPLOST on the ballot because I felt it was my responsibility to let the people decide. It's a public referendum, and it's not our right to prevent that from happening. Personally, I voted against the SPLOST. There are just too many wants versus needs," Ott said.

Tuesday night's meeting was also attended by Chairman Tim Lee, Hankerson, several county department heads, former Congressman Bob Barr, former northeast Cobb Commissioner Thea Powell, former chairman candidate Larry Savage and State Rep. Sharon Cooper (R-Marietta).
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susilighthouse
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July 20, 2011
Every family and business in the entire country has been forsed to cut spending because that is all they can do, they have no way to increase their revenue by raising income levels. And for many families already facing hard time this 130$additional property tax is not the only increase they face to their budgets, they pay more at the grocery store, for gas, utilities etc etc everything is on the raise. It is rediculous to increase taxes so people can play tennis at the park, or have a new shade umbrella installed at the dog park. I have to stop spending its time our government was made to do the same. STOP SPENDING COBB COUNTY
lajsfdlj
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April 01, 2011
Read fable Grasshopper/Ant: How many of these comments against public servants are from the people who made a killing off of real estate, then spent lavishly; bought the dream McMansion and subsequently went bust. Now those low paid entry level government jobs don't look so bad....
confused employee
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April 01, 2011
Here is an anecdotal story...Believe it or not not all employess at Cobb County live in Cobb County, that being said, I have heard many of them state that they wish they received the same level of service from their counties as the citizens of Cobb receive...and guess what? they pay a higher millage rate than we do in Cobb. The employess at Cobb County have been doing a Herculean job of maintaining the level of services with every shrinking budgets, be thankful. Furloughs will do nothing but decrease morale, which will be translated to the services you citizens receive, and then you'll be squaking about that as well...You guys are spoiled, for several years now you have been getting more than you paid for...it is now time the pay the piper and not time to punish the people who have been giving you more for less...move to Fulton or Dekalb...
anonymous
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March 31, 2011
You can't cut anymore from the county employees....unless you give them food stamps, and section 8 rent help!
putittoavote
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March 31, 2011
why not put it to a vote to see if the residents of Cobb want to raise their milage rates.
lechat
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March 31, 2011
Cobb Taxpayer: Your comment about the "inflated" tax digest shows you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Why should anyone care what you have to say after that?
LiferatCobb
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March 30, 2011
One more comment for the citizens of Cobb. Think about why you frequent a grocery store that has higher prices and excellent customer service over a grocery store with low prices and treats you like a number. You pay for that extra service with the higher prices. Mr. Ott thinks they can train monkeys(or outsource) many of Cobb's positions. Is that what you want? Or do you want someone who has made their career with the county an loves working there?
LiferatCobb
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March 30, 2011
For those of us who have chosen to have a career with Cobb this is a just another slap the face by the commissioers. The only voice those of us who work for the BOC have is on these comment sites. We are not allowed to voice our opinion to the commissioners in private or at the BOC meeting. We can be reprimanded for that. Promotions within the department have become a thing of the past. In the last three years a number of management positions have been eliminated or put on hold to help balance the budget. The Board of Commissioners' attitude is we should be thankful we have a job. Now they want to cut our pay by furloughing us for several days. Yes Mr. Ott that is a pay cut! For those citizens who do think we should be happy we have a job. You are wrong to think we start doing with less, we already are. We have taken on more responsibility, and with the massive increases in our benefit costs we are taking home less than we made in 2004.
anonymous
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March 30, 2011
Cobb Taxpayer, you are right on the mark. Please let the rest of us know the source of your data on the inflated tax digest. You know, the hard numbers so the rest of us can be as clearly informed as you obviously are.
kyla2
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March 30, 2011
I am reading these posts and it is very apparent to me that some of you aren't grown-ups. The commissioners are doing the best they can to work through this. This same situation has already played out in other counties and they have had to take similar measures. Cobb County has the lowest tax rate of any county in the metro area. The tax base has fallen and now we have to do something about it. Yes, they can cut services and programs out the whazoo, but the same people that are complaining about taxes, will be the first to complain about the loss of services i.e. waiting in longer lines etc. You can't have it both ways. What they are planning to do is make cuts, including furlough days and considering a raise in the millage rate. Helen Goreham is right. They need to consider aisinf the millage rate as part of the solution. A 1% increase will mean little to most homeowners but provide much needed revenue. Commissioner Ott's heart is in the right place in not wanting to raise the rate, but in my opinion, it is unrealistic in the present circumstances. By the way, there are many employees and some areas in Cobb County government which are not funded by taxes. The poster who made that statement was corect. Also, completely eliminating CCT is a non-starter for many reasons. But paying back 26 million to the Feds is high on the list. One poster suggested doing it over 2 years. Well, considering we are 31 million in the hole right now that just doesn't seem logical. So they will probably scale it back, but not eliminate it completely.
Fed Up
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March 30, 2011
To the "Cobb Taxpayer" who posted on Mar 30 at 6:13pm -

Do you know how moronic you sound? As a fellow "Cobb Taxpayer" I realize that employees of the county work to pay bills and provide for their families just as I do. The county budget is in crisis because property taxes are decreasing therefore there is less money to pay the employees. I am, as are all of my neighbors, willing to pay an increased millage rate that would generate the revenue that the county has lost due to decreased property value.

In closing, remember this: It is cheaper to pay the increased millage than the increased homeowners insurance, increased crime, decreased police and fire response, dumpy parks, dirty bumpy streets and crappy customer service from county employees. If I wanted to live in Fulton, DeKalb, or Clayton, I would move there. I suggest that you move there and see how it feels.
pay as you go
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March 30, 2011
Hey genius: A non profit group is required to spend all of its assets on its program and facilities. They do this above and beyond what they should be as it is. A FOR profit group could steal money and pay themselves at the expense of the community and its facilities. Do you have a clue about how parks facilities and volunteer associations currently ? Obviously not.
Ima Taxburden
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March 30, 2011
In response to the "Cobb Taxpayer" post: You sir or Ma'am, are a moron. I fall into your 10% cut--the 50 to 100,000 bracket. After 20 years of working for Cobb County in the hot sun, the cold rain, nights, weekends and holidays, and yes even snow, you suggest to target me so that I'll make about what someone who has been working for eight to ten years. Don't forget, we have not had a pay raise in three years, and our deductions have been going up---does that count as part of your pay cut? After reading many of these posts, I truly regret my choice of careers in county governmnet. You have enjoyed outstanding service from Cobb County government employees for many many years. Cobb County has not been a federal jobs program. We work, work hard, and we used to get compensated. Many of you are whining, spoiled rotten people who are hijacking a conservative movement in this country for slight personal gain. I doubt you could compose a complete coherent philosphocal thought even if you are holding John Stuart Mills' book "On Liberty" in your hands. My best hope for you is that your last coherent thought when you keel over dieing from a heart attack is that cutting funds to the fire department and Cheif Heaton doing away with the ALS program was a bad idea. After all you idiot, the fire department is for putting out fires; quick EMT response is a luxury that Cobb County taxpaying sniveling brats should no longer be burdened with.
anonymous
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March 30, 2011
I wopuldn't let the majority of people on here manage a huddle house, much less a local gov't agency like Cobb County. These so called "experts" are clueless about what it takes to run things
86bh
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March 30, 2011
Cut CCT, another waste of money, exists only for those suck off the govt teet
86bh
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March 30, 2011
Fire Hankerson, he is Incompetent, just a 'yes' man..
anonymous
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March 30, 2011
Those Non profit groups spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on facilities and parks every year. They pay way beyond what is brought in with taxes so stop acting like you pay it all.

FO profit programs? Yes, lets create Est CobbBaseball groups for the haves and exclude anyone who can't afford the high costs of privatized sports. lets see where that gets us. Parks and Recreation plays a vital role in the community. It helps address juvenile crime, at risk youth, health concerns and insurance rates, attracts business and pours in millions with tournaments and special events. All of Cobb County reaps the benefits when these people spend money here. You want to privatize it then give all the money hotels, restaurants, gas stations, ect make when these groups roll into town to those groups. You don't deserve it.
canttellya
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March 30, 2011
The saddest part of this is the County was not simply bamboozled by the economy. They have been aware of shortfalls for at least a couple of years and did nothing but kept right on conducting business as usual, with only a form of trying to curb spending. Now, as usual, government only reacts when there is a crisis.

If you want to cut money look at the way public administration is conducted. One way is to exam capital outlay versus maintenance. The government hates to purchase capital up front but will pay large sums for maintenance costs. This is because of the mindset of the public administrator. You see, it looks bad to buy high up front, so they would rather buy low and pay high on the back end. This is not a moral problem. This is the way government works. It simply does not operate under the notion of profit like the private sector. It's just not the way the government world works. The money is then "budgeted" and not a "real" cost because it is part of a product purchased. You want to change government? Change the thought process of public managers. They really don't know any other way to act. They're good people doing things the only way they know how. Help them please.

Most people have no idea how things are run in the public arena and simply bark about spoiled employees. They miss the real chance to change things and instead post on a silly little ol' newspaper website because it makes them feel as if they've done their civic duty.
itstime
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March 30, 2011
Mr. Ott speaks out of both sides of his mouth - when he insisted that Lee form an oversight committee that would look out for the interests of the citizens of Cobb County, he let Lee get away with forming a committee (very late) that will be a bunch of followers of the Lee agenda. When Helen Goreham (soon to be ex commissioner for my area) came out for higher taxes - after also supporting the SPLOST tax increase, Mr. Ott agreed with her but then decided at his own meeting to alter his agreement. What a chicken. He wants to be Chairman?????. We need some leaders on the Cobb County Commission not a bunch of RINOS and wannabe government caretakers. Get a backbone, please Mr. Ott. NO NEW TAXES or increase in existing taxes!!!!
ThankfulEmployCitize
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March 30, 2011
I am an employee with Cobb County and I know the county has received a lot of grief from citizens and from their own employees, but personally I believe Cobb County has done a great job with the budget. Cobb is a big county and has the lowest millage rate in Georgia. That says a lot right there. The US as a whole has suffered through a ruff economic exposure over the last 10 years and Cobb has been one of the few counties that have been able to keep their heads above water up until now. They haven't gone into their reserve money as other counties have depleted theirs. I believe personally they/we deserve a pat on the back. It is not easy to run a county and I don't believe it is fair to compare it to the private sector. To me it is a totally different animal. As gas prices continue to rise and people don't pay their taxes, it makes it very hard to continue to run the county the way the public has grown accustomed to. I did not realize how much it took to run a lot of these facilities and grounds until I started working for the county and am now amazed what our people do. It also says a lot about our county, because many citizens from other counties visit our facilities because they say we offer more and better services than their county where they reside. We should be proud of Cobb and what we have built together.

I personally know in my department that we have pinched every penny over the last few years. There are many of our buildings that need repairs but that has been put off until times get better.

I personally had rather have a furlough day than to be laid off. I've been through that in the private sector when the economic stress first started. It is not fun, and I do not want to start over again. I believe if they laid off employees it would just make their budget worse as those employees would not be able to pay their taxes and the budget would be even in worse shape than it is now.

I hope that this can get resolved and the Commissioners along with the County Manager can come to a scenario that can make everyone happy.

Thanks for all you do for us...
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