We’ve had one ‘secular awakening’and it was enough
December 05, 2012 12:29 AM | 1170 views | 17 17 comments | 9 9 recommendations | email to a friend | print
DEAR EDITOR:

I have always enjoyed reading Dr. Melvyn Fein’s columns in the MDJ. They are dependably rich with insight, wisdom and right-thinking. With that in mind, I was surprised to see the title of Monday’s column, “Do we need a secular awakening?” A sort of guffaw escaped me — poignantly, of course.

There did indeed occur a large secular assertion. It’s now known as the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s. Until then, America was most definitely a Christian Nation. Families were intact, television was viewable by the entire family and our presidents had no qualms about praying to and with the whole nation. FDR prayed many times to the nation for the preservation of the Christian religion. So did Churchill; frequently. It’s never mentioned now that they did. Colleges and universities were places students went to get higher education; not to become brainwashed into the mores of socialism.

The country now is in shambles culturally, spiritually, religiously and financially. “Progressivism” has had its way, but not across the board. In the areas of America led by conservatives, whether state, county or city, things are going quite well, given the reach liberalism has had on the national level. Areas run by libs are mostly bankrupt, run-down and crime-infested. Secularism simply doesn’t fulfill, satisfy or function well.

What the country needs desperately is a True Christian Awakening. It is Christianity that made America great; that made people from all over the world want to come here to live and prosper. But there is very little chance there ever will be another religious awakening here. Dr. Fein’s lefty colleagues in academia as well as the unspeakably vicious, banal, crude and decadent operators of the sadly popular “music,” TV and movies swarm to have succeeded in working the populace into a moral and mental torpor. The likes of which have not been seen since the Fall of Rome. The lazy and the ignorant have voted themselves, along with the rest of us, into a quasi-slavery that will increasingly become less quasi, and more de facto and de jure. One of our Founders said that our Constitution is designed for a moral people, and not suited for any other.

In the ’50s and ’60s, Western movies and TV shows were highly popular. Each one was a “morality play.” Good always triumphed over evil. Religion was portrayed always as a positive. A man’s word was his bond. Moral bravery and honor were shown often, and as such fortified the nation’s youth to aspire to uprightness.

Moral relativism has taken hold. Many churches, instead of upholding righteousness and condemning sin, have little by little, along with the ever-descending culture, “bent” their precepts and ideals so as to “accommodate” the “faithful,” and so they now actually reinforce the moral abyss.

I wish I could be more positive and hopeful, but the signs of the times don’t lend themselves to it.

However, “There is a place of quiet rest, near to the Heart of God.” If you can find it, you’ll be very glad you did!

Harry Hagan

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Kevin Foley
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December 06, 2012
@ Mr. Halle - Note that Mr. Hagan says Alinsky is one of the "socialist Jews" surrounding President Obama. Alinsky's been dead for 40 years, so HFH doesn't know what he's talking about. He's just parroting Newt Gingrich, who played the Alinsky card during the GOP primary, not because of Alinsky's political beliefs, but because it was a Jewish name sure to set off folks like Mr. Hagan.

As I note below, Mr. Hagan is like a lot of older white guys who recall an America that never existed anywhere except on their TV screens.
Keven Fooley
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December 06, 2012
Gee Foley, you are one angry young man. Aside from that, did it ever occur to you that other Americans are allowed to express their opinions? You left wingnuts seem to believe only you are permitted to express personal opinions. So what do you prefer to appear on TV screens? Oh I know, you are a fan of the Hollywood left wing filth that is shoved down our throats by the people who financed Obama's reelection campaign.
Oliver G. Halle
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December 05, 2012
“HFH” wrote a blog responding to a LTE dated November 11, 2012,in which HFH stated, “People who think Mr. Obama is a Muslim are ludicrously mistaken. He is almost totally surrounded by far left, secular, socialist Jews. These people are the most hubristic, cynical, and mendacious folks on the planet. They mean no one any good, except themselves and their friends.” Presumably HFH is the same author of the LTE in today's MDJ. This tripe defines Mr. Hagan and his biases. About all he deserves credit for is living a long life, but it is a life filled with hate and undeserved self-righteousness. He has no credibility.
Ollie Hailleboop
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December 05, 2012
Ok, so you just proved you can parrot HFH. Do you have any original thoughts to share with us? Or are you just going engage in name calling, like calling HFH names like hate and bias?
Harry Hagan
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December 05, 2012
How sweet of you to quote me, Mr. Halle. Your inference though, is rather stupid and slanderous.

The socialist Jews I spoke of are quite well known to most readers: Soros, Alinsky, The Frankfort School, Gramsci, NYT, Hollywood movers and shakers, etc. These people are highly organized; that's why I have no compunction in naming them. It's fine with you and them, of course, to call Christian Evangelicals (I'm not one, but avidly Christian) every insulting name in the book, right? Have you written to complain, e.g., to Bill Maher, for his evil and hateful diatribes against us?

Do I have to write how much I admire Jews such as Prager, Savage, Medved, Ben Stein, and Melvyn Fein, just to balance things out?

My biases? Because my thinking doesn't parallel yours my thoughts are biased? The things I write are my OPINIONS. Before you and your pals completely wreck the Constitution, I'm still entitled (you know that word, don't you?) to them.
Off Balance
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December 05, 2012
@Mex-Ame-

Since you read the Hagan column with intent to debate, it is clear your mind was set to argue rather than to learn or agree before you even read it.

Then you chose to disparage the writer, Harry Hagan, rather than to enter your debate points.

Since you were going to debate Harry , that implies many things among which is that the country is not in shambles. If you have lived as long as Harry or I, you would not disagree with that.

Next, Harry's point or reference to the Cultural Revolution of the 60s is historical fact. You debate that?

Moral relativism is now rooted in our society--you debate that? Then, you do not read the daily news or, you are indeed converted to moral relativism and cannot recognize the changes and what kind of values you hold.

Full disclosure--I do not know Harry. I only know that I agree with what he writes to the MDJ.

Lastly, the fact you identify yourself as a hyphenated American of a specific ethnic group speaks volumes about your allegiance to our country and where your allegiance lies.

PS I further agree that our country needs a Christian awakening.
frogbreath
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December 05, 2012
We have so many violations of human dignity on so many levels, and so many problems when it comes to social engineering," explained Johan Lundell, secretary-general of the Swedish pro-life group Ja till Livet. "This has been going on for the past 70 years.
Too funny
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December 05, 2012
What an absolute load of garbage. We have a Constitution and are a nation under the rule of law so the writer's bizarre lust for a Christian theocratic state will - thanks to the sagacious foresight of our founding fathers - never happen.
Not Too funny
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December 05, 2012
@Too funny

Is that the best you can do? Simply label someone else's thoughts as "an absolute load of garbage"? What in the world is a "bizarre lust"? Do tell, is that just more of your name calling or is that some new liberal progressive think?
Too funny
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December 05, 2012
Ok Not TF, prove this statement: "Areas run by libs are mostly bankrupt, run-down and crime-infested. Secularism simply doesn’t fulfill, satisfy or function well." HGH is making measurable claims here, so if it's not pure garbage, then by all means show me the studies that prove his statement. Here's something you can google if you'd like, the nations with the highest standards of living for most of their population are also among the most progressive and secular (Norway, Australia, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands, etc.) while those with the lowest are among the most dogmatic and theocratic (North Korea, Afghanistan, Sudan, Indonesia, etc.)

Not Too funny
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December 05, 2012
@Too funny

Nice rant, but what is your point?
PC Police
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December 05, 2012
Mr Too funny, I see you practice discrimination. Norway, Australia, Sweden, Denmark, and the Netherlands are countries with majority white populations. So, are you promoting white supremacy?
Too funny
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December 06, 2012
My point, since you're obviously having a tough time grasping it, is that making measurable claims without evidence, such as the claim HGH made that I quoted, is foolish. As for the white supremacy charge - that's called a non sequitur. I'm promoting secularism...skin color is irrelevant. The positive correlates of secularism are "higher levels of education and verbal ability, lower levels of prejudice, ethnocentrism, racism, homophobia, and greater support for women's equality, child-rearing that supports independent thinking, and an absence of corporal punishment." The source for my claim is Phil Zuckerman's article in Sociology Compass 2009. That is evidence.
MEX-AME
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December 05, 2012
At first I paid close attention to the contribution and I was ready to respectfully debate those arguments and ideas. I scrolled down and saw who wrote. Never mind. Sayonara. Bye.
Kevin Foley
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December 05, 2012
Another angry white man pining for the good old '50s and '60s of "Father Knows Best," McCarthyism, the Korea and Vietnam debacles, segregation, political assassinations, and KKK lynchings.

The entertainment you cite was escapism designed to sell cigarettes, not a reflection of the real America. Did you ever notice that Mayberry, North Carolina had no African-Americans?

Sorry, Harry, but that morally superior America you believe once existed is pure fantasy. What you call "relativism" many of the rest of us call reality.

Kevin Fooley
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December 05, 2012
You are a very angry man, Kevin. An easy way to understand radical liberal progressive socialism is to realize they view everything in their world through the narrow lens of race, class, and sex.
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