Savage decries ballot language about TSPLOST
by Jon Gillooly
June 21, 2012 01:01 AM | 1591 views | 20 20 comments | 16 16 recommendations | email to a friend | print
MARIETTA — Retired businessman Larry Savage, a Republican candidate for county chairman, objects to the way the July 31 ballot describes the transportation referendum.

Savage tried to make his point Tuesday evening during a candidate forum conducted by the Cobb Republican Women’s Club by holding up several posters, but the moderator said that was against the rules.

“The ballot that I was going to show you has a statement added to it that says I’m the best candidate,” Savage told the audience. “That wouldn’t be fair, and everybody knows that. But the real ballot has a statement added to it saying the TSPLOST is really a good thing.”

The mock ballot Savage wanted to show the audience lists the names of the four candidates for chairman — Mike Boyce, Bill Byrne, Tim Lee and Savage. At the bottom of the poster, it reads: “Larry is really a great guy, a wonderful humanitarian, kind to animals and small children, picks up trash on the street and is always courteous to his elders. He is clearly the right choice.”

The Cobb Board of Elections website lists the official ballot language for the TSPLOST as stating: “Provides for local transportation projects to create jobs and reduce traffic congestion with citizen oversight.”

The official ballot goes on to state: “Shall Cobb County’s transportation system and the transportation network in this region and the state be improved by providing for a 1 percent special district transportation sales and use tax for the purpose of transportation projects and programs for a period of 10 years?”

Commission chairman Tim Lee said he has no problems with the wording.

“That describes exactly what it is,” Lee said.

Georgia Secretary of State spokesman Jared Thomas said the responsibility for the language is Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s. Thomas passed along a statement Kemp wrote in describing why he authored the language the way he did.

“Ultimately, the language in the preamble is all referenced in the original legislation that was passed over three years ago,” Kemp said. “The preamble language exists for this reason and this reason only.”

Before his time ran out at the candidate forum, Savage ripped into the TSPLOST itself, first pointing out how the local county SPLOSTs have become permanent in Cobb County, with education SPLOST after education SPLOST and county SPLOST after county SPLOST continuing to be renewed by voters.

“Once again we’re told we have insurmountable problems that can only be resolved by voting for a new tax,” Savage said. “When we study the plan, we find that it doesn’t produce the advertised results. We find another temporary tax that will never end but will likely increase. We find the largest tax increase in Georgia history. We find real estate insiders who aren’t even subject to our meager state ethics laws. There’s a multi-million (dollar) ad campaign to convince us to vote yes, financed illegally in my opinion by involved interests who stand to benefit from the results if the TSPLOST passes. There’s no comment from our elected officials about this practice.”
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SG68
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June 23, 2012
Tim Lee and TSPLOST.

Both are big losers for Cobb County.

Tim Lee is a buffoon.

The TSPLOST is a scam.

CobbGuy
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June 21, 2012
If you randomly chose five posters here in this forum you would have a better chance of making a successful county commission for the people of Cobb than if you elected them from a group of professional politicians. These people in office, or running, have no interest in anything or anybody unless it gets them money, power or both as individuals. We pay taxes, they spend it...for our benefit. Hardly. Vote NO.
VFP42
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June 21, 2012
I will be voting NO to everything, including the alcohol sales in unincorporated East Cobb and West Cobb. I am so tired of paying taxes for your roads. Countless millions of dollars for roads but no improvement to anything but pre-existing sidewalks around downtown. Hows about you unincorporated leeches come pay me for my Sunday beer instead.
NEXT THEY'LL SAY
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June 21, 2012
Next they'll say that the Tsplost will also bring an end to world hunger, cure cancer, and bring about world peace. Hallelujah!
COUNTY EMPLOYEE
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June 21, 2012
Trust me, Tim Lee has shafted county employees. Furlough days, no raises in years, low morale and the list could contine for a while. We want him gone too. Why do you think the fraternal order of police didn't endorse him? He has shafted the rank and file at every turn.
dustoff
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June 21, 2012
County Employee

I worked at the County under Bill Byrne, and trust me he will be way worse than Tim Lee. BB is the reason Hankerson is Czar and you know what the BiG D. has done to help employees!!!

Savage will ruin what is left of Cobb because he is clueless as to how government even runs.

Boyce has no political experience and we dealt with that same issue with 2 prior Chairmen, Secrist and Earl Smith. But at least both of them had common sense.

It will be 4 years of hell if Byrne is elected and you will not get raises and morale will drop even further when he starts firong any manager who does not kiss up to him and jump through the hoops.
Hankerson has
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June 21, 2012
a reputation for treating county employees inhumanely. I wouldn't want the guy responsible for crowning Dave back in officer either. As much as Tim Lee has made some questionable decisions lately, he marginally remains the lesser of four evils to me...even after I vote "No" on this TSPLOST.
Kennesaw Voter
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June 21, 2012
Well b4 u told me Tim Lee was working to keep my taxes low by being fiscally responsible with my tax dollars through proper pay rates for county employees...I was prepared to vote against him but now I guess I should vote for him because Cobb has to keep cutting their spending...

But, Tim Lee did raise my taxes so I have to vote against him.

and NO to the TIA too; Cobb got shafted on that project list....we r spending $700 million for a train in Fulton county...REDICULOUS!!
RedBoard
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June 21, 2012
Rarely, in the many elections I have participated in over my years, have I seen such egregious examples of bias, cronyism, public sector collusion, and gross misrepresentation of fact.

Future textbooks should report the TIA referendum in the Atlanta region in 2012 as a perfect display of how the governing class completely exposed its inability to come clean with its constituency, preferring instead to impose an miserably poorly designed tax that won't solve the problems it says will be addressed, but will greatly succeed in lining the pockets of the governing class and their buddies...all while every one of us hands over an average of an additional $300 or more each year just for the privilege of being governed by these hacks.

An $8 billion dollar slush fund, and that is ALL TSPLOST is, apparently is a terrible thing to waste...and the governing class must have its money you know. (Its money, they think. Not ours.)

My contempt for the governing class at all levels continues to grow.

Just how far can these people go? Just how outrageous will their claims of correctness and wisdom be? Just how much will they demand in taxes from us, while delivering absolutely NOTHING? How much longer will we stand for their lies?

Ask these questions BEFORE you vote on July 31. Don't bother reading their scam-ballot language. Just check the NO box. Tell your friends and neighbors to do the same.
Ballot Fraud
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June 21, 2012
Isn't messing with the ballot illegal? Regardless of your position on the TSPLOST this fraud is a real threat to fair government.

The Governor and Legislators made a big deal that this tax is to be the "peoples' choice" - and then they cheat on the ballot wording.

Kemp or somebody needs to go. MDJ please get to the bottom of this.
Sad but true
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June 21, 2012
Just another example of how corrupt Cobb County and

the State of Georgia have become under their respective current leadership.
More of the same
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June 21, 2012
Have you ever seen the wording of a GA constitutional amendment? The wording is always slanted to make you think you should vote yes. Where were all the complainers when they were on the ballot?
Spokesderp
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June 21, 2012
SOS spokesperson Jared Thomas is either making stuff up in an attempt to make his boss look cool, or he overlooked one tiny detail. I'll go with the prior since Kemp took the time to draft a statement to the effect that "he authored" the language. Here's the problem:

The Secretary of State does not choose the Constitutional amendment ballot language. O.C.G.A. § 50-12-100 (2012). That task falls to the Constitutional Amendments Publication Board. That committee is comprised of the Governor, Speaker, and Lt. Governor. Any language they choose must be approved by 2/3 of their board (note the ballot amendment's Short Title is written by this board as well, see O.C.G.A. § 50-12-101). (2012).

Maybe what this spokesperson meant is that Kemp got out some crayons and scribbled down a suggestion for all of them. The reality is that he, as in himself, probably didn't write that either.

Mr. Gillooly, perhaps a phone call to Kemp's office will clear up this question.

Second, it would be worth asking the question of why on earth does Kemp want to tie himself to the sinking ship called T-splost(raising taxes)?

And third, isn't it tradition that the SOS stay neutral for this sort of thing?
One more
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June 21, 2012
reason to vote this down.
East Cobb Voter
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June 21, 2012
Cobb officials and the Secretary of State that oversee elections have stooped to a new low. By putting biased wording on the ballot in an attempt to lead the voters to the conclusion they want, they are essentially cheating.

It's not a very big step from this subtle kind of cheating to outright fraud and stealing the election. Can we at least have some neutral observers from Chile or maybe Brazil come in to monitor this election for fraud?
Savage and Byrne
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June 21, 2012
Keep reporting on Savage and Byrne. Every time they are quoted, it just reinforces my belief that they are clueless. Byrne attacks any and all. Savage simple just doesnt get it. Byrne was a joke when in office and is a bigger joke now. Besides, where is his official address now, here or Rockmart? He doesn't even own property here in Cobb. That compared with Savage's million plus mansion in the Atlanta Country Club. What a contrast. But still both are clueless. Keep talking, guys, your are amusing.
Pat H
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June 21, 2012
Why are Tim Lee's people, who are probably County employees wanting him to keep increasing property taxes to support the bloated budget, always criticizing Savage for being "rich"?

He earned his money honestly and was successful at his job.

Tim Lee filed for bankruptcy, now has the County's residents supporting him, his wife works for MUST and taxpayers support MUST. Plus, he carpeted Cobb County with artificial turf made by his only client.

So, who is the better manager?
Red Hat
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June 21, 2012
Tim....you really should disguise your blogging better.
Waiting.Pat..waiting
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June 21, 2012
Pat H, as you know Lee filed bankruptcy over a divorce issue and paid it back in full 20 years ago. Your candidate Savage has done absolutely zero for the county, has never been active in county affairs and is just a rich gated country club snob who wants to help his friends get rich off the county. And Pat, Lee isn't for raising taxes, a slight increase was forced on him by the economy and lower home valuations which left him a choice of firing police and firefighters or adding a small increase to your property tax which is still likely much lower then when he was elected. And Pat you keep talking about the county buying Lee's turf, where is that? Nobody seems to know what you are talking about. Finally, if you have one shred of proof that Lee's wife has caused the Must ministry to get money please show us your evidence. Otherwise I think it is a sick cheap shot and stooping to a new low to make that claim about someone's wife with absolutely no evidence. We have asked you many times for evidence of any of your claims and we are still waiting Pat. Waiting...Waiting...
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