Mama Bears push back against military kid survey
by Laura Armstrong
November 08, 2011 08:30 AM | 5883 views | 4 4 comments | 102 102 recommendations | email to a friend | print
 Military kids: Parker, Patterson, Kate and Hanson Ellis Davenport <i>STAFF PHOTO</i>
Military kids: Parker, Patterson, Kate and Hanson Ellis Davenport STAFF PHOTO
A recent University of Washington-based study purports to have sampled 10,000 teenagers in 8th, 10th and 12th grades about their tendencies towards violence. The students, from the state of Washington, filled out surveys. We’re told 550 of them reported a parent had deployed to a combat zone in the previous six years, and that sample population brought forth some astounding data about the propensity of military kids to be “more violent.”

As an Army brat now Marine wife and a card-carrying DoD dependent almost all my life, I believe this study and the way it’s being reported needs some push back.

I mean, should we really believe 10,000 teenagers told the truth on a survey?

The results, nevertheless widely reported last week, inspired headlines such as “Military children could become violent.”

To add some balance, I didn’t have time to do a legitimate study such as the one reported by the AP, but I did ask some Army and Marine wives what they thought.

Not one of them believes the study is an accurate reflection of military kids.

My friend Kate Reynolds of Acworth is married to Army Col. George Reynolds, who’s been deployed seven times since 2003. Their kids, aged 26, 23, 21, 18 and 16 are successful in life. One is an Army second lieutenant, serving proudly. Another is politically active, attending the University of Alabama. Her 23-year-old is a college grad earning six figures and just purchased a home.

“My children are successful,” Kate says, “because they have a dad in the military who’s taught them goals and excellence and who sets an example. He expects them to do their best.”

She’s not bragging, just telling it how it is, and emphasizes she doesn’t know any military family of any rank whose children don’t strive.

My friend Mary Katherine Davenport is married to Maj. Richard Davenport, who’s been deployed multiple times in this war. She also writes an incredibly beautiful account of her life with five daughters at Her tagline is, “Discovering grace and joy in the trenches.” I recommend you go there for information on her project --Operation Stalwart Holiday 2011. She and her daughters are sending 1,000 holiday packages to deployed soldiers by November 15th (I guess the girls put their gang activity on hold for the holidays).

Mary Katherine writes that her oldest daughter, at 13, is on level three Rosetta Stone for Chinese language and got a 99% on her IOWA skills test last year. I had asked her to help me show you examples of the Army kids she knows and their achievements.

“I know some amazing kids,” she writes, explaining that hers, at even young ages, understand sacrifice unlike their civilian counterparts. And they don’t grumble and complain, she emphasizes.

“They shake it off and carry on,” she says, reminding me that even though they didn’t sign up, they serve their country.

“Sure there are some troubled kids out there. And sure 10 years at war has not helped those kids. But there are plenty out there who rise above it all, day after day, year after year. I've got five of those kids.”

“There are far worse influences to violence and broken homes than a parent deployed,” she reminds. “And if you're going to point out the negative, you sure as heck better point out those rising above.”

In addition to their understanding of service, M.K. says, “My kids, like many military kids, have a stronger sense of geography and language because of the nature of moves and intermixing with other cultures than their civilian counterparts. They are the true heroes of my life.”

Mama bears aside, we all know some teens are going to get into trouble, no matter who their parents are.

Fort Stewart is the Georgia home of the Army’s 3rd Infantry Division, the largest Army installation east of the Mississippi. Last school year there were 13,167 students enrolled in the Liberty School District in nearby Hinesville. Approximately 3,255 kids belonged to active duty military parents and 9,912 came from non-military families.

According to Assistant superintendent Mary Alexander, there were 14,629 discipline referrals for the year; 3,776 were from the military side of the house and 10,853 were from the civilian side.

Certainly not all referrals were violence related, among either group of kids. But just a quick look reveals a very different picture from the Washington self-reported study. In fact, it seems to suggest that kids are kids in Hinesville when it comes to rate of referrals, a much more believable reality.
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Devil's Advocate
November 18, 2011
"Not one of them believes the study is an accurate reflection of military kids."

Or maybe they did, and your aggressive, military-kid personality didn't leave the door open to oppose your opinion. OR, people don't like being labelled violent; especially the violent ones...

Another brat
November 10, 2011
The interesting thing about the military is that while it can be a wonderful equalizer when it comes to the class structure that we have in our greater society, there are class and poverty issues within it as well. Some soldiers enter the Army with less than savory backgrounds as children of abuse. This cycle is not broken simply because a person puts on a uniform. It could be heightened. That said, certainly I knew many, many, many wonderful kids who were Army dependents like myself when I was growing up... and wonderful men and women who were in the Army. I retain ties to active military families today. However, I would not be surprised if there was an increase in certain issues of violence within the home after repeated deployments of even a very stable parent to a combat zone. They aren't playing tiddly-winks overseas, and there are mental consequences and stress involved with war. I think your issue is more that you are defending the military community. You don't want those kids or parents painted with a broad brushstroke. All Marine Corps colonels, for instance, whatever Pat Conroy says, are not the Great Santini. But I think we should take the data and figure it out. Support the military men and women. Accept they are in a violent profession. Help families WHO NEED HELP (which does not apply to all of them) deal with the reality of what that profession is. And then move forward with chins held high.
allison knight-khan
November 09, 2011
My husband is an army "brat" too--from Pakistan.

I think that the credit should go to the mothers, if they are the ones at home, because basically they are shouldering the burden of two parents, which is exhausting at times.

The children are not single parent families, where the finances may be impaired. It's just that one parent is absent. So it depends on the reactions of the spouse when they are on leave.

In the great wars, the men came back heroes. Men and women who come back and they have to do ugly takes a spiritual toll, which may lead to post traumatic stress disorder.

I think the mothers who make their children focus on seeking knowledge is great, because they can control that whereas they can't control what happens to the parent who is away...except pray.

It's a tough life. I don't envy you. I look forward to seeing my husband every day and I enjoy making decisions together and sharing things. You have to live without for long periods of time.

May God have mercy on you and them and your children.
Gut Instinct
November 09, 2011
"I mean, should we really believe 10,000 teenagers told the truth on a survey?"

Yeah, everyone knows that statistical surveys can't be trusted.

"I didn’t have time to do a legitimate study such as the one reported by the AP, but I did ask some Army and Marine wives what they thought."

Anecdotal evidence, on the other hand, is rock-solid proof!
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