Hola to wannabe experts: Obama’s “record deportation numbers” disputed by people who actually study illegal immigration – MSM remains silent
by DA_King
 Blogging While DA King
July 16, 2012 01:47 PM | 3225 views | 19 19 comments | 30 30 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink
The constant repetition of the premise that Obama has set some record for deportations of illegal aliens is a good example of the power and complicity of the liberal mainstream media to assist in not only spreading propaganda, but to help Dear Ruler get re-elected while supplying leftist bloggers and posters with “facts” to use in the barrage of comments designed to make it look like they have even a beginners level of knowledge on the crime of illegal immigration. They “know” only what they hear in “the news.” Hello Kevin Foley.

Obama’s 2011 campaign claim to have deported a record number of illegal aliens was happily printed by most of the friendly press and became “fact” because no national MSM reporter would delve into the truth or existing evidence. Including remarks from Dear Ruler himself.

But what is even more telling, the lefties will ignore “progressives” that slip up and let part of the truth out. For the thinking readers, I offer an online copy of a 2011 Dustin Inman Society press release in which we challenged the media to explore the possibility of forming a committee to consider the possibility of having a discussion on actually covering a part of the story that may challenge Obama’s deportation shell game claims.

One part of the release: “...King noted that Progressive Radio Network contributor and 'The Ticket' political reporter/blogger, Rachel Rose Hartman, recently reported on remarks made by the president to moderators during a Hispanic online roundtable - "Open for Questions"- hosted by Yahoo!, MSN Latino, AOL Latino and HuffPost LatinoVoices "Obama was asked to address an increase in deportations that has occurred during his tenure. He said the numbers are "a little deceptive"- apprehensions at the border are counted as deportations in the reported statistics, Obama said..."

The Heritage Foundation also did some actual research and quoted U.S. House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith in disputing the claims:

The agency boasted the record-breaking deportation of 396,906 individuals in fiscal year 2011, labeling its recent efforts to combat illegal immigration a large success. Yet, according to a recent Politico article by Representative Lamar Smith (R–TX), the Administration’s numbers appear to be largely smoke and mirrors. “Take away the illusion,” Smith writes, “and the facts show that the administration conjures up its deportation statistics.”

It appears that DHS has artificially inflated its deportation numbers by including figures on voluntary removals. What this means is that those individuals who agree to be returned to their home countries are counted in the same way as those who are ordered to be deported by the courts. Unlike when an individual is removed under deportation orders, those who leave under voluntary removal can apply to legally return to the United States without penalty.

This “fudging” of the numbers comes on the heels of recent Administration decisions that have served to weaken immigration enforcement within the United States, including the reduction of worksite raids, an emphasis on criminal deportations, and an increase in the use of prosecutorial discretion…”

Also, this newspaper covered the pro-enforcement side of the story with this coverage.

Someone let me know if they found any of this in the Atlanta papers.

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5 year old
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July 23, 2012
RTY Jr=-

as a 5yer old, I resent the inference that Foley's Fooleries are at our level of maturity.
RTY Jr.
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July 19, 2012
@ Dave Gorak: pay no attention to our local joke. Foley is unable to argue but constantly puts up what he regards as witty comebacks that never address the last point. He will never admit that Obama himself said the numbers were false. He just keeps typing like a 5 year-old.

Digger Girl
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July 18, 2012
Kevin Foley seems jealeous of the press attention King gets as an expert. Foely: you can never catch D.A. King but we enjoy watching you squirm. I have been reading your other posts and your blog. You are not too smart are you?

I like reading the names you call King when he shows yoiu up - then your posts that tell people not to call other names. Yoiu are a typical liberal, but on the low end of experience in hiding your lack of intelligence.
Lib in Cobb
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July 18, 2012
kevin: Your response to Dave is very special. I am laughing.
Robert Johnson
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July 18, 2012
Kevin just can't address the fact that a leftie news source let it slip that Obama himself says the deportation numbers are rigged when he has to.

Neither can Foley keep a point. While he regards himself as smooth and slick, he can't see that the rest of the world does see he has no base - and that if you don't agree with Kevin Foley he will either start the name calling or imply that you are somehow whacko. Kevin: it is you who are that mindless oddball. And people laugh at you. And the MDJ keeps you here for a reason...Kevin you are the local joke!
Kevin Foley
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July 18, 2012
@ Dave Gorak - I'm confused. Mr. King says the mainstream media is conspiring to ignore the immigration issue. Now you're saying, no, the MSM is ignoring the issue because its lazy.

I'm further flummoxed because I see and hear a lot about all sides of the immigration issue in the MSM including all the networks, the NY Times, Wash. Post, LA Times, Huffington Post, NPR and many other so-called "liberal" media outlets.

I was a newspaper reporter for awhile and I used to get calls from a guy who insisted the NSA had bugged his home and why wouldn't I write a story about it to let the world know?

Maybe the media regards you and Mr. King the same way.
Dave Gorak
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July 18, 2012
Our federally created immigration crisis exists primarily because Congress is more concerned with offending illegal aliens and their advocates than they are American workers who they swore to protect.

But they couldn't have done it without the support of a mainstream media whose members are incapable of engaging in critical thinking let alone spell it.

I spent 30 years as print journalist in Chicago; markets of that size undoubtedly represent the "majors" of news coverage. So I say with some authority that the rules of responsible news reporting that I grew up with are not in play when it comes to "covering" immigration. They have been replaced by pure bias and bone-deep laziness.

Have any of you ever watched a cat while it is dozing? Notice how their ears always are twitching, picking up sounds in their environment?

So it is with good reporters ( a rarity these days), who, like cats, benefit from the use of their noses and eyes to pick up on things happening around them.

I apologize for taking so long to finally address D.A.'s concerns here about the media's failure to question the nonsense about Obama's "record" number of deportation, but here is my point:

When Obama himself publicly admits that these deportation numbers are a "little deceiving," why do the media, like one of Pavlov's dogs, continue to respond the same way to the lies thrown about by illegal aliens and their advocates?

Dave Gorak

Executive director

Midwest Coalition to Reduce Immigration

La Valle, WI

Gene Ralno
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July 18, 2012
Here's an idea. Keep the kids, deport the parents. Redefine "kid" as a high school graduate under 21 instead of 30. Permit them to attend accredited colleges at the same rates and standards as American kids. If they don't graduate in six years, deport them to their parents. If they don't become felony-free citizens within five years after graduation from college, deport them to their parents. Make this deal for six months only and then close it forever. Oh, and no more chain migration. That's always been absurd.
Gordo T
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July 17, 2012
Wait, Foley, I thought your order was to call illegal laiens "undocumented workers"?

I enjoy to watch King allow you to make a fool of yourself. He cited a liberal report that says Obama admitted to "deceptive numbers" on deportations.

Try reading it again Foley.

...King noted that Progressive Radio Network contributor and 'The Ticket' political reporter/blogger, Rachel Rose Hartman, recently reported on remarks made by the president to moderators during a Hispanic online roundtable - "Open for Questions"- hosted by Yahoo!, MSN Latino, AOL Latino and HuffPost LatinoVoices "Obama was asked to address an increase in deportations that has occurred during his tenure. He said the numbers are "a little deceptive"- apprehensions at the border are counted as deportations in the reported statistics, Obama said..."

The fun part is that you can't alter what we see on the screen to suit your mindless anti-American agenda.
A BP Agent
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July 17, 2012
The numbers would be like they used to be before he became president..we were arresting an average of 1.2 million illegals a year. Since WE were ordered last year to stop making arrests, numbers have dropped abling him to say fewer people are crossing the border down to around 350,000,,,lies on top of lies,,,This country is a 3rd world cesspool now...legalize everyone, but remember to add press 3 for frech, 4 for russian, 5 for chinese and so on.....FED UP FED....
Robert Johnson
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July 17, 2012
Hey Kevin - the same media you believe when you are told that Obama did an Executive Order for DREAM Act amnesty? How does it feel to have absolutely no credibility Kevin?
Marie in Marietta
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July 17, 2012
Lib in Cobb and Kevin who ever you are. You continue top prove the obvious: you are not able to reason.

DA showed us a "progressive" source where OBAMA is the one saying his own "deportation" figures are misleading. King must enjoy watching you as much as I do. Geeez you people are dim.

King wins again.
Dixieman
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July 17, 2012
Libby Cobb: Evidently you didn't read the part where Obama himself admitted deception about the numbers.

Your faith in the New York Times and all the papers that follow its lead is most touching--and most unjustified. You see, the Times has a Mexican sugar daddy named Carlos Slim, the richest man in the world. Slim bailed out the Times with a loan last year, and now owns eight percent of the NYT Company stock

Carlos is a strong critic of the U.S. controlling immigration. Like most rich white Mexicans, he wants to dump poor dark Mexicans in the U.S. so that middle class and working class American taxpayers will have to provide for them.

Thus we can deduce one reason why the NYT has so little problem with illegal immigrants flooding the U.S. You know what they say about he who pays the piper.

No doubt Senor Slim and his fellow elites appreciate the assistance they receive from Americans like you, Libby. Without it they might actually have to spend a tad of their fortunes on their countrymen.
Lib in Cobb
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July 17, 2012
Kevinn, One of the major points of disagreement with the "wingers" is that the undocumented immigrants don't pay taxes. With President Obama's decision to decriminalize a portion of the undocumented immigrant population, the 800,000 young people impacted by this decision will have the right to work legally in this country and PAY TAXES. But noooooooo, that's not good enough. There should be no wonder why I call these folks, "whistle nuts". Unless all 11 or 20 million undocumented immigrants are rounded up and driven to the border, nothing is good enough. I think DA King could sign on as a deputy to Joe Arpaio. If King lived in AZ he would have lots of "whistle nut" company.
Kevin Foley
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July 17, 2012
Mr. King once again displays amazing knowledge of all sorts of "conspiracies" hatched by anyone and everyone who disagrees with him.

Today it's the "mainstream media," which he claims is colluding to "ignore" his crusade. Why, Mr. King can even cite "facts" from fellow Obama haters, the Heritage Foundation and Rep. Lamar Smith. Smith, BTW, thinks Obama's recent decision to allow young immigrants to stay in the U.S. is "against the law". Maybe Smith and Mr. King should swear out a federal arrest warrant and get Obama behind bars.

Mr. King should be THRILLED that nearly 400,000 undocumented immigrants have been deported on Obama's watch. Guess not.

Lib in Cobb
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July 17, 2012
DA: There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. My information comes from very reliable sources, NY Times, Boston Globe, Wall Street Journal, Huffington Post. You can rely on Lamar, a man who has a significant ax to grind with President Obama and I will stick with my sources.

How to confuse a conservative: Use logic, cite facts.
Gordo T
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July 16, 2012
Thank goodness for DA!
ZOO
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July 16, 2012
So will the Obama campaign tout the fact that they fabricated deportation numbers as a last minute PR touch to secure 150% of the Hispanic vote? It would seem early on they conspired to falsify deportation numbers which shifted Hispanic votes away, and then Obama regained them with his illegal amnesty declaration. Pretend you're deporting them and then strategically give them amnesty. Pure subterfuge.
Lib in Cobb
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July 16, 2012
Of course Lamar (R, Texas) is going to disagree with the facts as published in The Boston Globe, The NY Times, The Wall Street Journal. Those are real newspapers DA, with writers who have done very extensive research before publishing and they have no affiliation with any society.

Have a nice day.
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