Foley clueless about conservatives
May 05, 2013 12:12 AM | 1209 views | 11 11 comments | 13 13 recommendations | email to a friend | print
DEAR EDITOR:

I am not sure if I am more amused or frustrated when someone who knows nothing about me tries to tell me who I am. Such is the case with MDJ columnist Kevin Foley.

Foley is an unapologetic die-hard liberal who loyally spouts liberal rhetoric in the MDJ weekly. And as long as he is telling us about what liberals think and why he thinks that it is so wonderful, that’s great! But when he launches his diatribes about what we conservatives believe, he clearly demonstrates that he has no clue. And this is not surprising. Since he is not a conservative and, I suspect, never has been, why should he understand what we believe? That would be like a Muslim truly understanding what Christians really believe.

In his April 26 column, he states that “conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy that can only be perpetuated through deception, especially in a democratic republic like the United States.”

Where to start ... First, I guess we conservatives must be very good at deception since more Republicans have been elected president than Democrats. I wonder how we do this deception and why it has worked so well on the American people for so long. Care to offer us a clue, Mr. Foley?

Next, which party is it that believes that the Washington, D.C., aristocracy (aka elected officials) should have more control over our lives (see Obamacare, gun control, education ...)? Seems to me that the liberals are the ones that believe that “we the people” are not smart enough to think for ourselves.

Finally, which presidential candidate made messianic proclamations like, “a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama?” Certainly not a conservative.

Then he claims that “Romney cared not a whit about the middle class and poor.” Most liberals cannot hold a candle to Mitt Romney’s charitable work and contributions. In fact, in 2011, while President Obama gave 1 percent of his income to charity, Romney gave 15 percent!

And what exactly have the liberals done for the middle class and the poor? Nothing! Oh yeah, they send our money to them. So how’s that working for them? Half a century and billions upon billions of dollars after LBJ started the “War on Poverty,” the poverty rate in America is the same and many more people are dependent upon welfare and/or food stamps.

You see, Mr. Foley, we have a better idea. It’s called teach a man to fish and he becomes free to make his own way rather than being addicted to the slavery of government dependence.

Conservatives are the true believers that all men are created equal and deserve equal opportunity. We don’t believe in catering to a particular class of citizen nor do we believe that everyone deserves an equal result.

I would suggest Mr. Foley stick to writing about subjects he understands. Obviously, conservatism is not one of them.

Dan Valentine

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Kevin Foley
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May 09, 2013
@ Middleton - That's right, there couldn't possibly be another progressive reader of the MDJ in Cobb County.

Bob Johnson
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May 07, 2013
Kevin I guess we "trolls" are not in your class and must be unworthy.

Kevin Foley
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May 07, 2013
@ Johnson - Is that a stab at irony? Anyway, I exclude you from the troll category because, no matter how inane your posts, at least you put your name on them.
George Middleton
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May 09, 2013
Kevin, if you call those who disagree with you, and do not "sign" their names, "trolls". What do you call the few misled individuals who agree with you, but do not "sign" their names?

Most of us call them "Kevin Foley posting under another assumed name."

We were just wondering how you would label them, since labelling appears to be your stock in trade.
George Middleton
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May 09, 2013
Kevin, I am sure that the MDJ has many intelligent progressive readers. The thing is, with the keyword being "intelligent," these folks do not identify with your brand of cut and paste journalism and therefore would not comment, lest they be thought to endorse your hogwash.
maylib
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May 06, 2013
"the slavery of government dependence"

I'm really interested what you mean by that. Especially coupled with this:

"You see, Mr. Foley, we have a better idea. It’s called teach a man to fish and he becomes free to make his own way"

Teach a man to fish? Sounds like job training programs to me. Sounds like student loans and grants to help our young fishermen learn that skill. Is that what you meant? That some don't have the poles or rods or a lake to learn in just by the nature of where they were born or the family they were born into so... we give them a leg up, right? that's what you meant?

I don't think it is.. which is a shame.

However, I think you need to correct your naming. You are not a conservative mr valentine. You are a republican. It used to be there was little difference. Now, they are hardly the same.

You wish for smaller govt and blame the poor for our problems. Without offering any solutions other than less govt and lower taxes. Even Reagan wasn't that ignorant. Conservatives do exist (see Bruce Bartlett on fiscal conservatism, see Andrew Sullivan for social conservatism) but they've walked away from the GOP. Mainly because of people like you and the view you have of our great country.

Mitt Romney said 47 percent of this country is dependent on the govt and as a result, would not vote for him. He meant that. And he lost in a landslide because of it. I know plenty of people who are "dependent on the govt" - their called seniors, veterans, families with special needs kids, special needs adults, widows, orphans, and a many others who are americans who deserve our help. Not a lesson on fishing.
Kevin Foley
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May 05, 2013
Mr. Valentine, I support my arguments with reason and facts, not emotion and deception.

I simply take the words and actions of conservatives to drive home my points, so my writings are like a mirror in many ways. Conservative readers look into the mirror and hate what they see.

I don't blame them.

anonymous
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May 05, 2013
"My writings are like a mirror....."

Bwa HaHaHa!!!

What Valentine forgot to say: Liberals have absolutely no sense of humor or humility and have nowhere to go when presented with logic except attack. I congratulate you on your measured response, Foley. You didn't really attack back today. Must've gone to church.
Dan Valentine
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May 05, 2013
Mr. Foley,

1) Your article does not "take the words and actions of conservatives". Rather, you quote the words of a fellow "anti-conservative". You don't like/agree with conservative philosophy - we get that. But you don't understand conservatism. And nothing in this or your other articles proves otherwise.

2) If you really believe we hate what we see when we look in the mirror, you are further deluding yourself.

Here is a thought - if you truly believe we are "on the ropes" and hate ourselves, show us, not through the opinions of like-minded liberals, but through empirical evidence that anything you have said is based on "reason and facts". That certainly was not present in this article.
Kevin Foley
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May 06, 2013
@ Mr. Valentine, No problem. Here you go:

The king’s subjects groveled for scraps of his beneficence. Romney’s supplicants bowed and scraped before his purported greatness (see Mel Fein's pre-election writings). The king regarded anyone not in his class as unworthy. So did Romney, as revealed by his “47 percent” remarks.

For "empirical evidence" see 2012 election results. For reason and facts, see Friday's column about conservative double standards.

As I say, it's not pretty and I don't blame you for hating it, but at least you present your arguments politely. That's more than I can say for most of the trolls around here.
George Middleton
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May 07, 2013
Kevin, you are forever coming up with the most mindless hogwash.

The difference in Romney's message and Obama's message boils down to four letter words. Romney's promise to the American people was "JOBS". Obama's promise was "FREE". The people who were swayed by the difference in the two words represent the percenatge by which Obama stole the election. Fortunately, many of these people are beginning to see the lies and hypocrisy of the man in the white House. So much for your "empircial" evidence.

As for anything worthwhile in your columns, I have to say, "Ain't happened yet, Ain't likely to." You symbolize the lemming mentality of the majority of liberals in this country.

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