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Olens: Cobb checking status of immigrants
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Published: 07/24/2008


By Ashley Hungerford
Marietta Daily Journal Staff Writer

MARIETTA - Cobb Chairman Sam Olens disputed allegations that the county is violating state law requiring officials to verify the immigration status of applicants for public benefits, such as business licenses.

"We have been absolutely checking on the business licenses," of which the county has issued about 1,098, he said Wednesday. But the chairman held firm to his position that a business license is different from an occupational tax certificate (OTC), of which the county has issued about 27,668. The county does not check the immigration status of those applicants.

"The term (business license) is used generically, that's true," Olens said. "But legally, they're different." A business license is granted to businesses that require some oversight, such as taxi companies and amusement rides. An OTC is simply a registration of the business so the county can collect taxes, Olens said.

The issue was brought to light by D.A. King, a local activist against illegal immigration. Last week he filed a civil suit against the county seeking full compliance with the 2006 Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act. That law, sponsored by state Sen. Chip Rogers (R-Woodstock), requires governments to verify through a federal database that applicants for public benefits are in the country legally.

On June 30, the county asked Attorney General Thurbert E. Baker to issue an opinion regarding the issue. Baker's office confirmed receipt of the letter, but Baker has not yet issued an opinion.

"My position is, if the attorney general says we should be doing it, then we're going to automatically start doing it, and not wait for a judge," Olens said.

But Olens said there are a couple of reasons the county does not already verify the OTC applicants.

For one, he said, state statutes limit what information the county can ask of an OTC applicant, and outside counsel has advised county leaders that they can not legally request immigration information.

"If we do, we may or may not be violating (another) law," Olens said.

Logistics are also an issue. The 27,668 holders of OTCs can now renew their certificates online.

"Am I able to put a box on the Internet where they check that they're legally here?" Olens said. "I'm not comfortable with that."

Also, "I don't think it's appropriate use of taxpayer money for me to hire the employees to check all the affidavits," he said. "People like going on the Internet and doing renewals. But I'm willing to bet a sizeable percentage don't file if they have to come back into the office.

"It doesn't seem that the folks submitting the documents are the ones here illegally," he said.

Ultimately, Olens said, the issue of checking OTCs is not doing anything to stem the tide of illegal immigrants.

"I agree we should do everything we can to keep businesses from hiring illegals," he said. But verifying the immigration status of the person issued a certificate "tells us nothing about the business's employees.

"It's not solving the problem."

Olens did agree with King that the county was unclear in its distinction between business licenses and OTCs. He said as soon as he realized the county used one form for both, "I said, to stop the confusion, put them on separate forms," which the county began using this week. The county has also changed its signs, replacing "Business Licenses" with "Business Registration."

"Heck, he was 100 percent right that the form was confusing," Olens said of King.

But the chairman said Cobb is already doing more than any other government to stem the tide of illegal immigrants, citing boarding-house regulations as one example. And Cobb was one of the first governments in the state to enroll in the federal database program after the state law was passed, he said.

"What jurisdiction has tried to do as much as Cobb already has?" Olens said.

While Olens said checking the legal status of immigrants might be good politics and public policy, he said he doesn't feel the businesses that are submitting documents to the county are illegal.

"If we're out to get illegals, I don't see this as an efficient way to tackle the problem," he said.

He said of the almost 30,000 occupational tax certificates, he estimated "hardly any" are held by illegal immigrants.

Olens was also highly critical of federal actions against illegal immigration.

"If the federal government was involved in the first place, we wouldn't be having this conversation," he said. "The federal government has been inadequate."

ahungerford@mdjonline.com


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American Patriot says -
Sam Olens is right. This whole business about "occupational tax certificates" will do nothing to deal with the issue of illegal immigrants. It's all garbage. But I give D.A. King lots of credit. This straw man has got his name all in the papers and news. But I guess that's America for you-- always somebody with a racket.
American worker says -
Sam has gone too far...even for a politician. His credibility and the ease with which he has turned spin into out right lies is astounding. D.A. King is suing Sam Olens and has the truth on his side, I am lookijng forward to this all coming out in open court. Ask Sam when they first verified a business license applicant. Ask Sam when the law required him to do that. Ask Sam which term or English word he will try to change next. I am disgusted and glued to the issue now because I want to see just hoa many of these Sam will try to do.
Former Sam fan says -
Sam, Sam, Sam. You are losing all of your credibility. I don't believe you because I can se the truth. Stop while you are ahead...but not much.
says -
A great example of why you should never elect a lawyer to public office.
Oh MY! says -
Let's see, who to believe...D.A. King, or Sam... THANK YOU D.A. !
tired of excuses says -
First of all, Mr. Olens, how do you know that "HARDLY ANY" of the 30,000 occupational tax certificates are held by illegals??? MDJ, Have you checked to see if this statement is true? I also think there should be a box to check on the application that you swear to the fact that all of your employees are legal and if that is found to be false at anytime, then the employer is legally responsible and will be held accountable with stiff fines and jail time. The illegal immigration will slow when the employers stop hiring illegals! I don't say stop because a lot of the illegals are here dealing drugs and doing crimes and don't have jobs. They are living off the Americans that they do the crimes against.
Ernest Housner says -
Olsen is a liar and had to change the words on the business license so not to look stupid. He should demand that our Federal Government work hand in hand with our Local Government to alleviate the TAXPAYER of the ENORMOUS PROBLEM!!!! When it is time to vote remember, SAM the JOKER, and others with similar views; they don't deserve to be cooking our FRENCH FRIES!!!! VOTE THEM OUT!!!!!
Cobb Citizen says -
Chairman Olens, It is time for Cobb County to enforce our immigration laws and cease at being a sanctuary city. Remember who elected you!
REAL American Patriot says -
Olens is a moron. The point of the law is not to reduce illegal immigration. It is to STOP rendering public benefits to illegal scum. If, with the collective third grade education the invading huns from our south possess, illegals are persuaded not to invade, all the better. D.A. King is a true patriot, unlike some who post ridiculous comments. Profile|Arrest|Deport
Ali says -
Maybe it's not legal, as Mr. Olens claims, to ask about immigration status, but I'd be surprised if it's not legal to ask for one's Social Security number and to verify it against criminal and immigration databases. In fact, not to do so puts the public at risk in everything from amusement rides to taxis to child care to accounting firms.
Very Conserned says -
The truth of the matter is that all aspects of government, Federal, State, County and City are responsible by law to protect taxpayers from the burdensome costs that illegal immigrants impose on the coffers of said governments. The Cobb County taxpayers should remember Mr. Olens' shallow excuses and remove him and the other likeminded anti-Americans from public office. The total cost of illegal aliens to American taxpayers is a verifiable 338.3 BILLION dollars per year. Are you listening SAM?
Me says -
S.O.S. Just PASSING THE BUCK Thanks D.A.
LOL says -
Well, slick-sam is at it again! And, thank you Cobb County for allowing him to run unopposed! You get the kind of government you deserve!!!
RUSTY says -
We should recall Sam Olens!
Pat says -
Sam Olens is appearing to be in the pocket of the Chamber of Commerce, one of the largest open border lobby today and interested only in obscene profits at the cost of betrayal of our country. Changing the names and websites is an admission of guilt. How can you ever justify giving a business license for a taxi to someone who may not be here legally? This is absurd.
says -
King quote: "Chairman Olens, I know that you can change the term business license to "crook-neck squash" if you want to, but I know that you cannot change the law...I read your quote in the MDJ today and I am outraged that you have tried to cover up the fact that you have ignored the laws designed to protect our community and the entire state of Georgia from illegal aliens being rewarded with permission to open a business in our state". I tend to agree.




































 


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