Iraq, now Syria?
by Kevin_Foley
 Politics Progressive
May 06, 2013 10:58 AM | 1588 views | 19 19 comments | 17 17 recommendations | email to a friend | print | permalink

Can you imagine the right wing’s reaction to President Barrack Obama donning a flight suit and then landing in a Navy jet on the deck of an aircraft carrier for the purposes of political theater?

That’s what George W. Bush did ten years ago this month, just weeks after he ordered the invasion of Iraq.

These are the kind of teachable moments we, as informed citizens, need to pay attention to. We should not forget or excuse them, but study and learn from them.

Beneath a White House-produced sign declaring “Mission Accomplished,” with the 2004 re-election campaign cameras rolling, Bush announced an “end of major combat operations,” telling Americans ,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed.”

“…I just died, and I said my God, it's too conclusive,” Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld would later tell Bob Woodward.

In 2009, Bush admitted, "… putting 'Mission Accomplished' on an aircraft carrier was a mistake.”

Major combat operations weren’t over. In fact, things in Iraq were just heating up as Bush was prancing around in his flight suit on the deck of the U.S.S. Lincoln. They would culminate in a decade-long war of choice, a misadventure of historic proportions that cost the lives of 4,500 Americans and more than $1 trillion.

Worse, the Muslim world saw the slaughter of their co-religionists, more than 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, and reacted with outrage and contempt for America.

 

Bush’s Iraq debacle didn’t keep America safe; it further endangered America, radicalizing even more Muslims like the Boston bombers.

We also know from confirmed extemporaneous accounts that Bush was looking for any excuse to invade Iraq and overthrow its brutal tyrant, Saddam Hussein, perhaps because Saddam plotted to assassinate Bush’s father.

"After all, this is the guy who tried to kill my dad at one time," Bush smirked in 2007.

Other than Bush’s personal vendetta, there was no reason to invade Iraq, yet the administration worked feverishly in the run up to the war to sell Congress and Americans on the supposed threat Saddam posed; WMD “mushroom clouds” and all that B.S.

Anybody looking closely and paying attention at the time – people like Sen. Barrack Obama - knew Saddam was a danger only to the unfortunate people of Iraq, a garden variety dictator, just one of many blood-soaked tyrants around the world.

Question: If America was going to take Saddam out, why not all the others?

Answer: Saddam was the one sitting on one of the largest oil reserves in the world.

Now, the same conservatives who cheered for the Iraq invasion, who promised speedy victory, who said we’d be greeted as liberators, that Iraqi oil would pay for the war are demanding another war of choice, this time in Syria.

Ten years after “Mission Accomplished,” we have another teachable moment for America.

Are you paying attention?

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Lib in Cobb
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May 16, 2013
George: Speaking of hypocrites, you don't question the identity of people who agree with you, such as "Marie in Marietta" or "Cobb County Guy". Would you be less hypocritical if I changed my screen name to "Bob in Cobb"? I will suggest that you don't mention hypocrisy again.
Lib in obb
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May 15, 2013
@George: Both Clintons knew of the WMDs. Then where did they go? No proof of their existence was ever discovered post invasion. "Curveball", the Bush admin's sole source of the WMD information said he lied.

Debate me or don't debate me, that's fine. You wonder about the presence of my "male orbs", exactly the reason why I elect to preserve my anonymity.
George Middleton
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May 13, 2013
Mr. Foley, all your spin and all your wishful thinking doesn't alter the fact that the WMDs were believed to exist long before Bush took office. Both Clintons publicly acknowledged it. John Kerry spoke about it and, even helped author and send a letter to Clinton regarding the probablility of pre-emptive air strikes. Albright acknowledged them as did many top administratio officials. It is well

documented.

Do not pretend that you are ignorant of the facts, in order to try and sell your litany of half truths and twisted facts about the War in Iraq.

You cannot wipe out truth with "You listen to Fox news too much." THAT DOG WON'T HUNT.

BTW, please tell your clone,known as Lib in Cobb, that I do not debate people without the male orbs to use their name. As a matetr of fact, I notice you take to task, for that offense, people who disagree with you, yet you obviously feel it is permissable for him/her/it as long as he,she,it goes along with your party line.

The word "hypocrite" comes to mind in that case.
Lib in Cobb
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May 12, 2013
@Middleton: To answer your question of, "whoever or whatever that is". I am a Liberal living Cobb county. From this point forward you should know the answer to this repeated question and no I am not Kevin Foley, but I am flattered that you and DA think so. Not everyone in Cobb are "right wing cakes who can hear dog whistles".
Kevin Foley
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May 11, 2013
@ Middleton - You are once again demonstrating your breathtaking ignorance and your reliance on far right propaganda for "facts".

Lib in Cobb
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May 10, 2013
@George: Who called for the invasion, not Clinton. It was George II. Who sold us on the presence of WMDs, George, Rice, Chenye and Powell. Curveball was dealing with the CIA during the Bush admin. Bush and his criminal gang, then tried to convince us that there were multiple agencies who claimed there were WMDs, lies all lies. I have not left anything out.

Please answer the ongoing question. Since you and many other wingers believe there were WMDs, where did they disappear to?
George Middleton
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May 10, 2013
To Lib in Cobb (whoever or whatever that is)

You conveniently omit that the

lies" began in Clinton's administration and were repeated and amplified by most of the liberal leaders including both Clintons, Kerry, Byrd, Albright, etc. Also that a few of those men even urged Clinton to conduct bombing raids.

But the key thing you left out is that the presence of WMD's was an accepted fact and was part of Bush's briefing when he took office. The fact is that Bush did not start them, but he inherited the "lies" for which all you clueless Obama lemmings try to blame him.
CobbCoGuy
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May 10, 2013
Hey Lib. How ya been? Long time no swap zingers :)

Regarding Obama's Nobel Peace thingy, it appears there is now a movement to revoke it. Check out the recent HuffPo piece by Norman Solomon.

Reading the comments in said article, one would think that Obama is about two goose steps to the right of Dick Cheney.

Krazy world, huh?
Libb in Cobb
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May 10, 2013
@Middleton: It was not until after the invasion of Iraq that we learned the WMDs did not exist, a major reason why congress approved the invasion. Bush, Powell, Rice and Cheyne all lied to us. The above mentioned criminals put their faith in one very questionable source, one Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi aka "Curveball". The Bush admin then tried to make us believe that numerous intelligence agencies validated the presence of WMDs. "Curveball" has since admitted that he lied. So much for congressional approval.
Lib in Cobb
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May 10, 2013
@Kevin: Your OBL comment to Middleton is a classic "gotcha". Very good.
Lib in Cobb
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May 09, 2013
Speking of approval numbers. When George II left office his numbers were nearly equal to that of Nixon. Remember Nixon? The only president to resign the office in disgraceTo avoid prosecution, ford granted him a pardon, an obvious pre-resignation arrangement. George was your leader Middleton and CCG, not mine. I will venture a friendly wager that President Obama will leave office with domestic approval ratings significantly higher than George part deux. George could only dream about winning a Nobel Peace Prize at any time in his career.
Kevin Foley
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May 09, 2013
@ Middleton - His Islamic buddies like OBL, you mean?

George Middleton
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May 09, 2013
Kevin, you said, "Ignorance must be blissful CCG."

If that is true, you must live in a continual state of euphoria.

Obama enjoys somewhat low approval ratings among many of our allies as well as our enemies.

In fact,about the only ones who give him high approval ratings are some of his Islamic buddies.

Among the civilized nations, he is regarded as somewhat of a buffoon.

BTW, it was not Bush who invaded Iraq. It was the United States (with full congressional approval) as part of a U.N. peacekeeping force, engaged in the task of making Saddam live up to his previous agreements.
CobbCoGuy
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May 08, 2013
When throwing around approval numbers, polls and such, it's good to remember that it's 2013, not 2009.
Kevin Foley
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May 08, 2013
@ Cobb Co Guy - Exactly. He's CIC. He's not rushing into a war with little or no evidence that he should. Your hero didn't care about evidence, only about avenging Poppy or whatever.

By-stander on the world stage? I guess that's why his approval numbers are so high among our allies around the world.

Ignorance must be blissful CCG.
CobbCoGuy
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May 07, 2013
Obama is the Commander in Chief. And he's gonna allow conservatives to railroad him into a war? You confirmed what we already knew - Obama is simply a bystander on the world stage and has no business holding the keys to the White House.
George Middleton
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May 07, 2013
You must understand Cobb Guy, that Foley's confirmation bias will only allow him to recognize those reports which he can twist to support his biased logic. Anybody who says anything the doe snto agree with is an Obama hater and a shill for the evil right wing.

Remember, the Gospel According to Foley.

1.Obama is God.

2.Obama can do no wrong.

3.In case Obama does wrong, refer to # 1 and 2 above.
Kevin Foley
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May 07, 2013
@ Cobb Co Guy - Getting railroaded by conservatives into a second war of choice before all the facts are known isn't news? That's exactly the kind of ignorance that let Iraq happen.

Are you aware that there are two investigative reports on Benghazi, one classified and one unclassified, that include interviews with everyone involved? Both reports were presented to congress in January.

Are you aware that the Benghazi "consulate" was actually a CIA site where clandestine operations were being conducted, hence the need for a classified report? Instead of letting yourself be manipulated, why don't you get the facts first?

Rep. Darrell Issa wants to star in another bogus Obama/Clinton witch hunt, so he found some State employees he can prop up for the Fox TV cameras. (I'm betting they're Obama haters who had only tangential if any knowledge of Benghazi).

CobbCoGuy
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May 07, 2013
What's missing from this piece is the geopolitical box that Obama constructed for himself arising from his "red line" comments last August. Google it, friends.

As already stated by others, it appears Obama meant a red dotted line.

The REAL news this week? Three career State Department employees - whistleblowers - will testify before Congress about the Benghazi attack. Their testimony contradicts the Obama administration's storyline about the attack.

Have you heard? The Obamacare application, originally 21 pages, has been streamlined, so says the Obama administration. Well, not really. According to a May 3 piece by Eliana Johnson, some of the original pages are now appendices; and the original page one now has no page number. There are other sleight of hand tricks, but the end result? It's now 20 pages for a family of six instead of 21.

Ted Cruz is getting a lot of attention these days. Harry Reid (D-NV) referred to him as a "schoolyard bully" and James Carville recently stated that "...he is the most talented and fearless Republican politician I’ve seen in the last 30 years..."

Heh.

Be happy, conservative friends.
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